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07-12-2014, 13:48
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
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Stripping for a Haulout?
It has been 30 months since her last bottom job, and my boat is due for paint, wax and some hull repairs (thanks to the USCG).
Last time the bottom was done it was local and I knew the folks, so I did not strip anything off. This time she will be going to Playboy down in Dania. I will be dropping her off, seeing her hauled and not back down that way for a week.
So how much do you take off your boat when she is in a boatyard? Hand tools, winch and compass covers? More? Less?
Usual disclaimers apply, just curious what others do.
Thanks
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07-12-2014, 14:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
No reason to have the companionway open when you're gone, is there? Why bother removing anything?
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07-12-2014, 14:39
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
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Originally Posted by Snore
It has been 30 months since her last bottom job, and my boat is due for paint, wax and some hull repairs (thanks to the USCG).
Last time the bottom was done it was local and I knew the folks, so I did not strip anything off. This time she will be going to Playboy down in Dania. I will be dropping her off, seeing her hauled and not back down that way for a week.
So how much do you take off your boat when she is in a boatyard? Hand tools, winch and compass covers? More? Less?
Usual disclaimers apply, just curious what others do.
Thanks
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I'm not clear on what hazards you are addressing by removing things from the boat: theft, dirt, accidental damage... whatever?
If it is theft, if you can't trust them to not steal your stuff, how can you possibly trust them to do all the work well in your absence? IME, there are more cases of botched repairs than thievery in boatyards!
Jim
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07-12-2014, 15:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Stripping for a haul out could be a good deal. Depends on the yard crew's inclinations I guess.
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07-12-2014, 15:38
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Rocky's Boat Yard
Boat: Tayana V42 - Passages
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
I've hauled at Playboy twice. Never had a problem or heard of a problem.
Say hello to Basil from Gina and John. He does good work.
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07-12-2014, 16:04
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Registered User
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Location: St. Georges, Bda
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate
I'm not clear on what hazards you are addressing by removing things from the boat: theft, dirt, accidental damage... whatever?
If it is theft, if you can't trust them to not steal your stuff, how can you possibly trust them to do all the work well in your absence? IME, there are more cases of botched repairs than thievery in boatyards!
Jim
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I'm with Jim on this issue. I wouldn't go there if I didn't trust the yard. Jus sayin.
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07-12-2014, 16:11
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Once again, you guys have come through with outstanding counsel.
Thanks
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07-12-2014, 16:33
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat
Posts: 7,205
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate
I'm not clear on what hazards you are addressing by removing things from the boat: theft, dirt, accidental damage... whatever?
If it is theft, if you can't trust them to not steal your stuff, how can you possibly trust them to do all the work well in your absence? IME, there are more cases of botched repairs than thievery in boatyards!
Jim
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Trusting yard crew is one thing, but take no risks with valuables anyhow. I have seen everything from drunks sleeping in boats to a dinghy dropped 15' to the hard while they were attempting to get it off the boat deck. Had plenty of tools stolen too. All in a yard with cameras and barbed wire. Boatyards are an easy mark, thieves know this.
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07-12-2014, 16:49
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: U.S., Northeast
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Minaret's advice is right on. I had the boat yard crew forget to lock the companionway on several occasions. Luckily, nothing was stolen.
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07-12-2014, 17:58
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Sigh... I guess that I am just out of touch with the realities of urban life in the States. We are fortunate that for many years now we have used yards where theft is a very minor problem.
And Minaret, I get your point... it ain't the yardies that one should worry about, but the after-hours maggots that come to the surface to feed. Oh... drunks sleeping on boats? See that all the time... usually owners and crew!
Jim
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08-12-2014, 02:31
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
Posts: 3,683
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Glad too see I am not the only one with thoughts on both sides of the issue.
Ok hand tools, mast climber and small solar panel come with me.
Cheers
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"Whenever...it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people's hats off- then, I account it high time to get to sea..." Ishmael
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08-12-2014, 04:56
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Mine goes on the hard Mon morning a week from now, I intend to remove any easily carried off stuff, EPIRB, Binoculars, that kind of thing, but leaving stuff that isn't easily carried off.
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08-12-2014, 05:49
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
"Trust but verify" so to speak.
Nothing wrong with being a little untrusting and removing all the shiny baubles from the boat. Or, securing them all in the bonded storage locker, along with the family jewels.
I suppose a lot depends on what areas the workers will need access to, doesn't it?
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08-12-2014, 06:12
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
i have never stripped any boat for haulout-- i lock interior so my home is not invaded by anyone.
if the interior is to be worked on, i will be there for it.
is my home. why should i have to move out just for sand and a splash of paint and some other new items installed??
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08-12-2014, 06:29
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Re: Stripping for a Haulout?
Stripping for a Haulout?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snore
It has been 30 months since her last bottom job.....
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This actually may be an effective way to barter yard time... Possibly higher quality work too...
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