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Old 17-10-2012, 02:53   #1
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Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

Any Ideas?

The tread master style rubber stuff is nice and there are other company's that do similar products, but i feel like i have zip tied my wrists to my ankle when im fisted the price.

Doe anyone else know of other alternatives that are reasonable in price?

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Old 17-10-2012, 03:13   #2
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Any Ideas?

The tread master style rubber stuff is nice and there are other company's that do similar products, but i feel like i have zip tied my wrists to my ankle when im fisted the price.

Doe anyone else know of other alternatives that are reasonable in price?

Walking with a limp,

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Got some onboard but haven't tried it yet.
International Paints Non-Slip Additive, Marine Paint & Varnish | Mailspeed Marine

Others I know have used fine kiln dried sand in the paint.

I wouldn't stick anything to a steel deck, just a matter of time til the rust gets in there.
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Old 17-10-2012, 03:41   #3
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

Have a look at tredgrip
it is more aimed at concrete.
I have used it for ten yrs &
had to recoat once in that time
it has rubber particles in it
that give it the grip

in that time it has performed
its function very well.

water based
water cleanup untill dry
can be applied with
brush (even a broom)
roller
it requires 2 - 3. coats
advise first coat thined (with water)

cost effective
durable
not to sharp or hard
excelent grip
can be tinted to suit

the hardest part is getting
it off if it needs to be removed.
it is soluable in petrol & (thinners????)
when dry
listed as suitable for use
on steel
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Old 17-10-2012, 04:15   #4
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

Very little you can do. There are some, not many, alternatives and equally expensive.
Some are bad products and ceap looking. (Flexiteek)

The deck of my boat is entirely flush, even with added anti-slip in the paint, the deck is dangerous when wet.

I am starting to apply Yellow cedar (Alaskan) in the cockpit. If this works, I will do the rest of the ship. I could use teak, but teak is 3 times expensive.
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Old 17-10-2012, 04:27   #5
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

Bote Cote make a decent water based tread grip, but it is probably not much cheaper. Still saves a couple of bucks due ease cleaning up a water based product?
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

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Have a look at tredgrip
it is more aimed at concrete.
I have used it for ten yrs &
had to recoat once in that time
it has rubber particles in it
that give it the grip

in that time it has performed
its function very well.

water based
water cleanup untill dry
can be applied with
brush (even a broom)
roller
it requires 2 - 3. coats
advise first coat thined (with water)

cost effective
durable
not to sharp or hard
excelent grip
can be tinted to suit

the hardest part is getting
it off if it needs to be removed.
it is soluable in petrol & (thinners????)
when dry
listed as suitable for use
on steel
Sounds like the Bote Cote product I mentioned? The rep was telling me the Navy had used it on steel boats. The estimate he gave me to do my deck was reasonable. I have used their epoxy and paint. Both were easy to apply etc,
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

Efficacy is achieved in application !!!!!!!!!

suggest 2 or 3 practice applications
on any material to hand
this will give you an idear of the range of finishes
possible

this will ensure you get the grip and look
you want.

I have a composite boat & it a bitch to
get off
yours is steel a wire wheel would
do it for you

if you tint it make sure you have
tint ratio measurement & write it down
& keep it !!!!!!

I have kept it in the bilge for 2 +yrs
& it was still ok put a little water
on top just enough to cover it

my best results were achieved with a long
hair roller keep a bucket of
water handy for clean ups & keeping
the roller in when you have a break
brushes ok for difficult areas
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

DO IT. YOURSELF

Its easy & water clean up

$$$$$$$$$$$
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Efficacy is achieved in application !!!!!!!!!


I have a composite boat & it a bitch to
get off
I reckon I would be even more pissed if it was easy to remove!

Oh, met another yachtie who used it and he was more than happy.
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Bote Cote make a decent water based tread grip, but it is probably not much cheaper. Still saves a couple of bucks due ease cleaning up a water based product?
One downside might be if the rest of the steel boat is coated with 2 part epoxy paint. Water based ontop of 2 part shouldn't be a problem but if you want to recoat with 2 part onto single part water stuff later then problems might arise.

I saw a link to using fine sand a while ago but lost it, from memory use a kitchen sieve to get an even layer, blow off the excess then a final coat of heavily thinned 2 part polyurethane on top.

Think mine was done with sand, gripped great, just recoated with 2 part polyurethane car paint and now it's like an ice-rink (but a pretty one ) in the wet so I need to sort something out.
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

I'm thinking of using a spray on polyurea(sp?)

Basically it's pickup truck bedliner material. But again, not sure how the price relates. I *Think* it'll cost about 1200 to do the whole deck of a 36' boat, but that's a W.A.G.
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One downside might be if the rest of the steel boat is coated with 2 part epoxy paint. Water based ontop of 2 part shouldn't be a problem but if you want to recoat with 2 part onto single part water stuff later then problems might arise.

I saw a link to using fine sand a while ago but lost it, from memory use a kitchen sieve to get an even layer, blow off the excess then a final coat of heavily thinned 2 part polyurethane on top.

Think mine was done with sand, gripped great, just recoated with 2 part polyurethane car paint and now it's like an ice-rink (but a pretty one ) in the wet so I need to sort something out.
That is exactly what I did, using silversand. But no help. Deck remains slippery.
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Re: Steel Boat, Non Skid, Alternatives to Expensive Rubber Sheet

FWIW,

Here in Oz we used a product called Acrylmeric Sportscote (no foolin'!) produced by a company in Mona Vale NSW. It is water based, you roll it on with a textured roller and can control the aggressiveness of the non-skid. A 15 litre pail cost 189 AUD three years ago, and we only used half to do the decks of our 46 foot boat. It is bar none the best non-skid I have ever used... wet or dry. It has now seen three years of usage and has held up well.

Drawbacks are: it is hard to clean and in the hands of a rank amateur applicator, it is difficult to get an even surface appearance.

We applied it over two-pack LPU paint with only washing and very quick hand sanding with coarse paper.

It is a product similar in nature to Kiwigrip, but at an industrial price rather than a yachting one.

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I used a product called Grizzly Grip. It has a website. I love it. It rolls on and has a good texture. I never slip on it. It is originally truck bed coating, but now they have it for boats. You need to add their UV protectorant to it.
It comes in many colors. You have it mixed and sent to you just before using it. If you want to change the color, it is eay to paint a new color on it. They are very helpful.
I would definitely use it again.
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That is exactly what I did, using silversand. But no help. Deck remains slippery.
I've this to look forward to, Dunno if that international stuff will do the job, looks a bit fine. But whatever was on there worked, looked like it was a bit coarser than silversand. One shall persevere.
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