Standards Harmonization

**GordMay** · 05-12-2006, 02:56

ABYC, ICOMIA & NMMA Move Forward on A Global Marine Standards Harmonization Initiative

”During a recent meeting held at the Marine Equipment Trade Show (METS) a significant move forward towards the harmonization and co-recognition of the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and ABYC standards was made... “
DETAILS: http://www.abycinc.org/news/pr113006.cfm

**Kai Nui** · 05-12-2006, 18:34

It looks like a boilerplate meeting agenda. Hope it happens, but I can see the manufacturers screaming patent issues already. ("My patent says a 3 degree taper! What do you mean I have to make it 5 degrees?")

**Pblais** · 05-12-2006, 19:42

This is going to be a long road to perhaps good ends. Merger isn't always the political victory that may be required.

delmarrey · 05-12-2006, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Kai Nui

It looks like a boilerplate meeting agenda. Hope it happens, but I can see the manufacturers screaming patent issues already. ("My patent says a 3 degree taper! What do you mean I have to make it 5 degrees?")

And what about metric vs english. The marine suppliers are going to go nuts with that.

Quote:

May I buy 3.76 liters of botton paint

Sounds like fun already

**Kai Nui** · 05-12-2006, 22:28

We tried to go metric, and that didn't work, so I guess the rest of the world will have to conform to our system of measure

**Pblais** · 06-12-2006, 04:32

The marine industry never has wanted real standards. They like charting their own course more often than not. The trend in recent times is the companies are contracting into fewer corporations owning more smaller companies.

never monday · 06-12-2006, 05:11

I think a common standard will increase quality of the finished product. The lack of common standards now shows in many aspects of fit, finish and support.
A common standard should not be interpreted to be the be all, end all of quality. I would like to see boat builders agree to a minimum and many strive to surpass the minimum. I know I'm deaming, but we can try.

cat man do · 06-12-2006, 05:35

Had all sorts of grief in the '80s working in a yard building a multi million dollar 105 ft yacht for a client as it was an American design.

Australia had the metric system introduced in the '60s, so most of us youngies had and still don"t know what 5/16 or 17/64 or any of those weird measurements mean.

Strange as i'm still building a 50' boat.

Dave

**Pblais** · 06-12-2006, 05:44

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The lack of common standards now shows in many aspects of fit, finish and support.

I don't see those as the standards they have in mind. I actually don't see "quality standards" even on the agenda. There may be some merger of some of the technical standards and sharing in technical engeering. In the end the vendors themselves pay for the standards development. They pay all the money to support the standards organization and of course they control it to some degree. Unless most of the vendors want something it won't happen. It always starts as the "least that they all can agree on" and slowly works from there. This merger is all about the money it costs to fund and sustain the standards organization.

Any substantial changes to what we see out on the water are a long way ahead. It's not like AYBC was doing that poor a job of it. It might be nice to envision a standards group that acts like the IEEE but I don't think that is in the future for the marine industry.

05-12-2006, 02:56	#1
GordMay Administrator Site Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 9,316 Images: 230	Standards Harmonization ABYC, ICOMIA & NMMA Move Forward on A Global Marine Standards Harmonization Initiative ”During a recent meeting held at the Marine Equipment Trade Show (METS) a significant move forward towards the harmonization and co-recognition of the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and ABYC standards was made... “ DETAILS: http://www.abycinc.org/news/pr113006.cfm __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

05-12-2006, 18:34	#2
Kai Nui Captain Site Administrator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Moss Landing, Ca Boat: 37' Piver Lodestar - Kai Nui Posts: 4,375 Images: 80	It looks like a boilerplate meeting agenda. Hope it happens, but I can see the manufacturers screaming patent issues already. ("My patent says a 3 degree taper! What do you mean I have to make it 5 degrees?") __________________ There is no better bilge pump than a scared sailor with a bucket. KAI NUI

05-12-2006, 19:42	#3
Pblais Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hayes, VA Boat: Gozzard 36 - Bright Eyes Posts: 4,520 Images: 7	This is going to be a long road to perhaps good ends. Merger isn't always the political victory that may be required. __________________ Paul Blais s/v Bright Eyes Gozzard 36 37 15.7 N 76 28.9 W

05-12-2006, 22:28	#5
Kai Nui Captain Site Administrator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Moss Landing, Ca Boat: 37' Piver Lodestar - Kai Nui Posts: 4,375 Images: 80	We tried to go metric, and that didn't work, so I guess the rest of the world will have to conform to our system of measure __________________ There is no better bilge pump than a scared sailor with a bucket. KAI NUI

06-12-2006, 04:32	#6
Pblais Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hayes, VA Boat: Gozzard 36 - Bright Eyes Posts: 4,520 Images: 7	The marine industry never has wanted real standards. They like charting their own course more often than not. The trend in recent times is the companies are contracting into fewer corporations owning more smaller companies. __________________ Paul Blais s/v Bright Eyes Gozzard 36 37 15.7 N 76 28.9 W

06-12-2006, 05:11	#7
never monday Commercial Vendor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lake Lanier, GA Boat: Glouchester 22, SeaRay 340 under restoration Posts: 1,300	I think a common standard will increase quality of the finished product. The lack of common standards now shows in many aspects of fit, finish and support. A common standard should not be interpreted to be the be all, end all of quality. I would like to see boat builders agree to a minimum and many strive to surpass the minimum. I know I'm deaming, but we can try. __________________ www.inlandmarinediesel.com

06-12-2006, 05:35	#8
cat man do Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia [until the boats in the piss] Boat: 50ft powercat, light,long and low powered Posts: 1,782 Images: 35	Had all sorts of grief in the '80s working in a yard building a multi million dollar 105 ft yacht for a client as it was an American design. Australia had the metric system introduced in the '60s, so most of us youngies had and still don"t know what 5/16 or 17/64 or any of those weird measurements mean. Strange as i'm still building a 50' boat. Dave __________________ "Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you a yacht large enough to pull up right alongside it"...............David Lee Roth http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/

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