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Old 29-06-2013, 15:47   #16
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So were talking chain plate knees. You need to keep bearing surface in mind. Compression of the bolts too. You want a solid surface to bear against. Maybe I say without seeing it. You oversize the bolt holes. Dry rinse with denatured alcohol, fill the oversized holes with high density filler. Inject with epoxy and bore new holes for the chain plates.
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Re: Soggy Knees, New Idea?

How about just coring about a 3" diameter hole in the center of the triangle with a hole saw... digging out what you can and letting it dry out for a few months. If the glass is thick just leave it that way (a hole in the middle of a gusset does little de-strengthening) if not, fill it with a glass slurry and put the discs back in...
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Old 29-06-2013, 16:10   #18
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Re: Soggy Knees, New Idea?

Those are both good suggestions too.
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Re: Soggy Knees, New Idea?

What's the difference between "an innovative solution" and "a bodge"?

It's the other people who do the bodges.........
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A bodge is when you don't ask and don't know. You just bodge it up with goop. Some very high end craftsmen are epoxy saturating. But you need to know what the purpose of the wet wood is. Can you effectively replace or stanilize the wet stuff so its sound? Can it be as good or better then its engineered purpose? That's what the op is asking. How might you go about fixing this?
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Old 29-06-2013, 19:13   #21
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Re: Soggy Knees, New Idea?

Actually, the op (me) was not asking how to goop it up but rather suggesting a new way (at least to me) of replacing a plywood knee with solid fibreglass.
But this afternoon, I drilled some of the holes, in the worst knees, deeper. I was absolutely delighted when dry-as-a-bone (don't know why they say that because bones are not dry) sawdust was extracted from very deep (laterally) within the knee. Last winter that same hole was quite moist. The worst of the knees was still damp when drilled deeper but that is a running backstay knee.
The backstay knee is now the dampest and most concerning but I think that drilling laterally, into the inside edge and using CPES then filling with thickened epoxy, is the best option and is what I will do... I think
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Okay them bodge away.
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Old 29-06-2013, 19:23   #23
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fill the oversized holes with high density filler. Inject with epoxy and bore new holes for the chain plates.
Would this qualify as a bodge too?
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No. It was a post offering help. What's your issue .someone else asked when it was bodge. I suggested that it was not because you were looking at the choices. You might still bodge it but with your attitude you probably won't. You will spill epoxy all over the salon cushions but your kness won't bet wet or wobbly you will stand proud. Sabray you bastard see I did not bodge and my knees are not wet. Sabray you curse how dare you suggest that I might fix this without ripping everything out.
Rip it all out tear the knees out cut away the glass at every knee. Then it's no bodge. Feal better.
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Re: Soggy Knees, New Idea?

Whoa dude, you didn't notice the smiling winky? I have no issue man, I was only kidding. I kinda thought the conversation had wound down to some kindly joking around. My mistake, obviously. Sorry, I guess?
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Oops big smile I'm good at making mistakes I try to make them small social errors which I prefer to Big oops I'm screwed ones. Think your on to a good repair . I redid my chain plates and found that my knees were moist. I dryer the hell out of them with disc heaters and treatments of denatured alcohol. Saturated the knees in Epoxy. Them bored out the holes and used high density to create good surface overleaf the knees in 2 layers of 18/10!dual bias glass and epoxy. Don't think that's a bodge. Good luck
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Cool, we're good
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