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Old 11-02-2016, 18:11   #1
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So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

As many of you all know I own a Grand Soleil 46.3
SeaWolf (boats name) has full glued down teak decks... I returned from our Caribbean tour two months ago and have been searching and debating what to do about our decks for over a year now. Technically speaking, it doesn't leak and i could leave them for another year but, they would look really shabby and are beginging to split and they do not feel good under foot. I found a model of my boat that has removed all the teak and replaced it with white non skid.....

...... And i think it looks terrible.IMHO

I understand that white non skid is the safest,cheapest,most affordable way to go, and fake teak gets hot, but i just cant bring myself to go deface my boat like that SOOOOOOOOO....

I think we are going to go with the a synthetic teak replacement.
Am I the only one who thinks that the teak look and feel is worth the money?

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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

I'm a big fan of teak, having worked previously for over a decade on teak decked classics and modern - there's no substitute IMHO. Fresh water is the primary enemy of teak decks.

I want a teak deck on my boat when I find it.
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Old 11-02-2016, 18:26   #3
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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

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I'm a big fan of teak, having worked previously for over a decade on teak decked classics and modern - there's no substitute IMHO. Fresh water is the primary enemy of teak decks.

I want a teak deck on my boat when I find it.
I know you can't replace it, but 50k for a deck is simply stupid for real teak. I think I'll risk The 5-10k on synthetic and see how I like it after a couple years... at the very least I'll report it CF and others can learn lol

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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

You kind of answered your own question.

You hate white non skid on your boat and understandably so.

The price of real teak is re-donk-ulous

Synthetic teak for 5-10k for several years of service life is worth the gamble. I mean really what are your other options. Spend 50k or do something that you hate and is ugly
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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

You may like to read a thread started 5 weeks ago here:
faux Teak Decking Whats the best?

There are some good links and, of course, some opinions as well.
In particular I recommended reading the report of Practical Sailor.

Oops, that was not really your question. Pardon me. Is teak worth the expense? Or words to that effect.
Such question can only be answered in a subjective way, but one can list some advantages and the opposites.
Pro teak:
- aesthetics (and even that is open for debate)

Against teak:
- additional weight several feet above the waterline (in your case approx. 180 to 240 kg)
- installation cost
- limited lifespan
- if screwed, creating possible leaks
- very hot in tropics
- higher in maintenance costs compared with gelcoats, antislip and pretend (plastic) teaks
- cleaning is more time consuming, and at times maybe impossible compared with above surfaces

But having said all that, I am just now looking to buy a boat with teakdecks.... who said that buying a boat makes sense?
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Old 11-02-2016, 19:00   #6
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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

Thanks hank, good info in that thread. Yeah I'm leaning towards flexiteak. They kinda were the first

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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

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I mean really what are your other options.


DIY a teak deck replacement for way less than 50k? It's not that hard. Might even consider something other than teak (horror of horrors!).
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You could do faux painted teak decks like Amel

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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

When we went to the Miami boat show last year we stopped at every teak replacement booth to get hands on with the products.

In my and my fiancées opinions, if/when we change our teak deck (recaulking in the next couple months) we will definitely, without a doubt go with Marine Deck 2000 from Stanzo Mariquip. It's a pressed cork planking that's glued down.

Now what makes this stuff the puppies paws is that it's that it's so much cooler than the pvc stuff. It's grippy'er than the rest (see practical Sailor writeup), and is sound dampening. We stepped on a cat (builder in Africa, can't remember the name..) that had it and the stuff was just so pleasant. Cruise ships use it as well.

I don't work for them, though I wish I did because our boat would be done already with it! There's installers on the FL Gulf Coast I believe.

So yea, give it a look, it will be our choice.

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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

We went with cork and it was outstanding! Felt great on bare feet, non slip for sure, blood and oil and crap cleaned off with a power washer or less. Food for thought.

Captained a Hans Christian long ago, that boat broke me of the teak habit :-)

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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

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As many of you all know I own a Grand Soleil 46.3
SeaWolf (boats name) has full glued down teak decks... I returned from our Caribbean tour two months ago and have been searching and debating what to do about our decks for over a year now. Technically speaking, it doesn't leak and i could leave them for another year but, they would look really shabby and are beginging to split and they do not feel good under foot. I found a model of my boat that has removed all the teak and replaced it with white non skid.....

...... And i think it looks terrible.IMHO

I understand that white non skid is the safest,cheapest,most affordable way to go, and fake teak gets hot, but i just cant bring myself to go deface my boat like that SOOOOOOOOO....

I think we are going to go with the a synthetic teak replacement.
Am I the only one who thinks that the teak look and feel is worth the money?

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IMHO This photo looks so nice, WHY in the name of all that is holy, or sacred, would you NOT just restore , (or pay a young guy to) your real teak deck BEFORE they crack ???? "I'm jus sayin" ! as my kids tell me . P - S recently did a big comparison on plastic & cork ( Jimmy has it )) deck overlayments. If that is what you really want .
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IMHO This photo looks so nice, WHY in the name of all that is holy, or sacred, would you NOT just restore , (or pay a young guy to) your real teak deck BEFORE they crack ???? "I'm jus sayin" ! as my kids tell me . P - S recently did a big comparison on plastic & cork ( Jimmy has it )) deck overlayments. If that is what you really want .
There is not enough material left in my decks... th eery have been sanded and scrubbed to many times by previous owner... I wish I could restore...

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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

We got some samples of NuTeak at the St Pete Boat Show. I have to say it looks & feels like real wood. We thought it was quite attractive & way cheaper than teak which has gotten insanely expensive.
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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

I laid Tek-Dek from the UK in the cockpit of Skylark. It was so easy to make the templates. Laying the prepared patterns was a breeze, just masking off all the areas where you didn't want the SABA adhesive to go.

Guests think it is real wood. Has great anti-skid properties. Doesn't seem to stain from diesel or red wine and can be powerwashed.

I think Flexiteek is the parent company. Shop around.

The cockpit is so nice, I will cover the complete boat in a few years.
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Re: So I think i'm going to go a with Synthetic teak deck

One more vote for cork. If you want to really save money and have the time Seacork is a good alternative to Marine deck 2000. It has even better non-skid properties.
If you check the Seacork site there is a link to a Canadian couple who did the decks of their Nauticat. They are on this forum.
I just did the cockpit, sugar scoop, and some of the areas around the cockpit where people may step.
It fades pretty quickly to a silvery tan that blends well with our off white gelcoat but we kind of liked it a little browner. We've used teak wonder on part of it and if we get good results we'll sand the faded parts and use teak wonder on all of it.
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