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Old 07-06-2014, 12:07   #16
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Re: Shine Gel Coat?

If it looks good now, 3M finesse it is great. Whatever you put on wont last long at all. I've had the topsides pro done often when the boat is out for bottom job. It looks great when done but is like driving down the road and throwing $100 bills out the window! Disappears very quickly.
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Old 09-06-2014, 04:59   #17
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I have a 1982 Morgan 384 that was not taken care or for the last 5 years.. while in the yard i had them buff out the gel coat than i applied Island girl wax from Hawaii. clear stuff wipe on no wipe off and it just looks wet all the time after one year i could could see some not so shiny spots so i re applied a 38 boat ya get 3 coats out of a 80 buck bottle.. water needs shines ya can see the minnows in the hull..
I love this guy i talked to him on the phone first he is the real deal .
I will never use any other stuff.. wipe on and done.. Look at the web site
gets my vote.. Lee Nicholas/ Tarpon springs fl

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Old 09-06-2014, 09:52   #18
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On my boat, I use the 3M products, compound, machine glaze, then finishing glaze, using a Milwaukee 5460 right angle polisher and a coarse then fine wool bonnet.

If there are blemishes, then I first wet sand, up to 2,000 grit, for a perfect finish.

The result is a factory-new high gloss finish.
Decipher this...

Here are images showing removal of my sun-baked decal, followed by sanding, compounding and polish.

The sanding is the only way to get flat gell coat after decal removal.

A heat gun and putty knife are used to remove the decal.

The Festool ETS 150/3 Random Orbital Finish Sander w/ the Titan 2 and the Platin 2 discs, along w/ their HEPA dust extractor.

The ghost decal needs time and sun to fade.


Sun-baked Decal



Decal Scraped



Sanding Decal





Decal Sanded



Decal Polished
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:20   #19
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Re: Shine Gel Coat?

I like Island Girl Products. Very expensive but the product removes dullness and shines at the same time. You rub on with one cloth and rub off with clean cloth. My boat has good gel coat and it shines.
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Old 09-06-2014, 15:38   #20
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I like Island Girl Products. Very expensive but the product removes dullness and shines at the same time. You rub on with one cloth and rub off with clean cloth. My boat has good gel coat and it shines.
Got a link?

All I can find is nail polish products w/ that name and that would take WAAY to long to apply to my hull w/ that teeny brush.
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Old 09-06-2014, 16:01   #21
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Got a link?

All I can find is nail polish products w/ that name and that would take WAAY to long to apply to my hull w/ that teeny brush.


http://www.islandgirlproducts.com/



.."stops boats aging" - apparently it's 50% beeswax and 50% Botox.
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Decipher this...

Here are images showing removal of my sun-baked decal, followed by sanding, compounding and polish.

The sanding is the only way to get flat gell coat after decal removal.

A heat gun and putty knife are used to remove the decal.

The Festool ETS 150/3 Random Orbital Finish Sander w/ the Titan 2 and the Platin 2 discs, along w/ their HEPA dust extractor.

The ghost decal needs time and sun to fade.




Decal Sanded



Decal Polished

What's with the Copyright?

You'd think after all of your work the ghost decal would be eliminated.

Wouldn't it be easier to get a new decal from Sundancer?
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Re: Shine Gel Coat?

Take longer than you think for the gelcoat to fade, after awhile you just get used otit
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Old 10-06-2014, 06:06   #24
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You'd think after all of your work the ghost decal would be eliminated.
That is not what I think.

As has been stated, "The sanding is the only way to get flat gell coat after decal removal" and "The ghost decal needs time and sun to fade".

The ghost decal will disappear over time.

The work was to prepare the hull for decals and for long-term restoration back to new condition.


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Wouldn't it be easier to get a new decal from Sundancer?
The decals, embems and stripes have been replaced on my flat, smooth, polished and shiny hull.

The replacement Sundancer decal has been recreated by me so that I could get an exact match on the colors. The factory decal was close on the colors, that bugged me, so I created a very high-resolution camera-ready bitmap artwork and had these decals produced to match the stripes.

These are my images, that I've created, so I watermark the images.






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http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...olish-wax.html

Best explanation of how to do wax and shine ive ever seen*

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I used the Rolfe instructions from a few years ago. It works great. Now easier to keep it looking great. I found that the Mikita polisher got heavy so I switched to a smaller lighter unit. Same results. Also, the hand rubbing in each coat does wonders.
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Re: Shine Gel Coat?

Has anyone tried the 3M package products? My sailboat store and yard recommends these one step products. The one I'm about to try is the 3M Marine Fiberlass Clearner and Wax. Sounds like an old fashioned car cleaner/wax combo idea, except designed to remove more oxydation.

I tried it just by hand on a small area in the cockpit, and it made a distinct improvement, but I don't know how that would compare to the full meal deal of sand/compound/polish/buff/wax. I was surprised to find no residue from the polishing. Wonder if it just lays it down in the wax.

One consideration is that I'm not physically capable of doing the traditional process, without hurting myself anymore. I can do a once over with an electric buffer, and maybe a wax after.
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I do the complete process when I go on the hard. Between haul-outs I do use the one step clean and polish products. They seem to bring back the shine, but not as well as the long process.
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Has anyone tried the 3M package products? My sailboat store and yard recommends these one step products. The one I'm about to try is the 3M Marine Fiberlass Clearner and Wax. Sounds like an old fashioned car cleaner/wax combo idea, except designed to remove more oxydation.

I tried it just by hand on a small area in the cockpit, and it made a distinct improvement, but I don't know how that would compare to the full meal deal of sand/compound/polish/buff/wax. I was surprised to find no residue from the polishing. Wonder if it just lays it down in the wax.

One consideration is that I'm not physically capable of doing the traditional process, without hurting myself anymore. I can do a once over with an electric buffer, and maybe a wax after.
Most eh 3M stuff is real good. I'd like to try t he Island Girl stuff though.
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