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Old 13-09-2014, 00:15   #46
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Re: Shallow Dive System for Bottom Care

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i tried the same basic components " but with the correct air hose
yours is wrong" the problem being you need a much larger generator to run the compressor than i had .. i could get less than 5 minutes before it all shut down ,, cheaper to just hook the hose to a bottle and get it filled leave it on deck
Actually, you'll notice by reading the thread that, by the good advice received, my hose is correct and not wrong. My oilless compressor does have the red accumulator tank seen in post #1 and only runs intermittantly when the pressure is reduced by use. My 7K diesel generator has more than suffcient production of power to supply the compressor. "...cheaper to just hook the hose to a bottle and get it filled....." is not available for those cruising away from shore facilities.

I appreciate the suggestion from hemetone regarding the "Spare Air"; however, this is still compressed air and these devices do not eliminate the concerns of air pressure lung injuries with rising from depth. Safety here is a matter of knowledge and procedure. Although the "Spare Air" devices are well made they are expensive and they do not allow independance for long term cruising. Just like SCUBA tanks, you would need refills and shore support.

The Alpine- The cost of the proper air supply hose was approximately $1.40/ft as compared with the $0.50/ft for the hose that came with the original compreesor unit. I'm sure the added safety is well worth the cost!
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Re: Shallow Dive System for Bottom Care

So, fstbttms, what is your point? That only cheap ass kits would have an accumulator tank? Do you not see a benefit to it? One could assemble such a kit with higher quality components. Would this meet your high standards or are you more interested in posting scathing comments?
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Re: Shallow Dive System for Bottom Care

I have a dive tank and 40' hose and regulator that I use and keep it
stored on my sailboat which has come in handy a few times for me and other
sailor's too.
The tank is used certified and filled by dive shop and regulator used from E-bay
and the hose was new from dive shop.
I use it to clean prop and change zincis and check bottom and it is kept on my sailboat for any time needed out cruising and has come in handy.
I do have a diver clean my bottom every 2 months here in SWFl.
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Re: Shallow Dive System for Bottom Care

Fstbttms, how many hours to you get out of a scuba tank? I'm guessing quite a few considering the shallow depth?
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Fstbttms, how many hours to you get out of a scuba tank? I'm guessing quite a few considering the shallow depth?
I don't use tanks (although I have one.) I use hookah only. Honestly, I've never used a tank to do more than an hours work in twenty years.
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So, fstbttms, what is your point? That only cheap ass kits would have an accumulator tank? Do you not see a benefit to it? One could assemble such a kit with higher quality components. Would this meet your high standards or are you more interested in posting scathing comments?
I take issue with Hookamax for various reasons. So in this case, I was interested in making a scathing comment. Sorry if that got your knickers in a twist.
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Blah blah POS, blah blah panties in a bunch. So predictable.

In a more constructive vein - what hookah do you use, fstbttms? Did you make one or is there a decent unit you use or recommend?
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In a more constructive vein - what hookah do you use, fstbttms? Did you make one or is there a decent unit you use or recommend?
I have always used 110-volt electric hookahs I've put together myself and I have always based these hookahs on Thomas compressors. I currently use the Thomas 1207PK80. Industrial strength and reliable as hell.



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I have a dive tank and 40' hose and regulator that I use and keep it
stored on my sailboat which has come in handy a few times for me and other
sailor's too.
The tank is used certified and filled by dive shop and regulator used from E-bay
and the hose was new from dive shop.
I use it to clean prop and change zincis and check bottom and it is kept on my sailboat for any time needed out cruising and has come in handy.
I do have a diver clean my bottom every 2 months here in SWFl.
Nick
'sounds like a good plan. I used to use a dive tank too, but I'm changing to this new plan to be more independant while cruising. I rarely pay anyone to do any kind of maintenance on my boat except during a haul out once every three years or so.
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Re: Shallow Dive System for Bottom Care

Yeah, I would prefer 110v as well but in the boonies that could pose a problem. Yours looks like you do some serious work, whereas I would be using it for sport - sometimes cleaning my hull but more likely doing some reef diving where I can't get refills. I can't see using a 110v compressor with an inverter and a battery. Don't want to use a gas powered one as well. Still thinking it thru. Thanks for responding to the bunched up panties.
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Fstbttms, how many hours to you get out of a scuba tank? I'm guessing quite a few considering the shallow depth?

My SAC rate (surface air consumption) when swimming is .67 cu ft per min and probably pretty average. So at the surface An 80 cu ft bottle would last 114 min.
5 or six ft isn't very deep but still I'd be surprised if you got over 100 min.
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Yeah, I would prefer 110v as well but in the boonies that could pose a problem. Yours looks like you do some serious work, whereas I would be using it for sport - sometimes cleaning my hull but more likely doing some reef diving where I can't get refills. I can't see using a 110v compressor with an inverter and a battery. Don't want to use a gas powered one as well. Still thinking it thru. Thanks for responding to the bunched up panties.
These compressors draw 10.5 amps, more at startup. So you'd need to be able to handle that. I have sold quite a few to customers who were heading "out there."
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Re: Shallow Dive System for Bottom Care

Hookah 60' hose - $205

Brownie's 60ft Kayak Hose With Fitting at Divers Direct
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Wow! I see this is more than double the cost of the 60' air hose I bought from the nearby Ocala, Florida dive shop, but then I see this $205 price is not for the hose alone, but a primary regulator, secondary regulater and a leash and connectors too! Quite a bit more than a 60' hose.
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