Originally Posted by Jd1
While I grant you that I am lacking experience, I can tell you that people jump over multiple cars with a motorcycle all the time. Some even jump over large trenches in the ground called canyons. That still isn't a reason for me to do the same.
Sure, if the **** hits the fan with enough of the brown stuff involved then you might have to try and take the sail down even if you are single
handing but if you do that in todays day and age as a routine plan then I have a big canyon for you to jump over - it's really not a big deal with enough practice.
Being in my mid fifties, I have acquired enough common sense to not pull stupid maneuvers like that without a really really really good reason to do it.
I think comparing a routine sail change manoeuvre with a stunt that regularly mangles its adepts is... a little over the top?
Earlier you were challenging the concept
of changing headsails in any weather
, well this is how you do it.
Now Jim's point is valid, you were having trouble trying to change sail on a furler section. This is a different job, but you don't normally do this at sea other than as a planned move in good conditions, if at all. It takes two people to do it efficiently.
This is not the procedure you would use to switch to a smaller sail or storm jib
on a boat with a furler. This is why I was suggesting adding an inner forestay if you are going to sail in winds above the limit for your sail on the furler. I never suggested ditching the furler altogether.
What you need is a setup that works for the type of sailing you are doing and also capable of seeing you through if you get caught out. You can come up with one that includes a furler or not, but "furler and nothing else" isn't a good option as you have already discovered.
Now when it comes to how you change hanked headsails, racing
and cruising are two very different things because you can take your time and minimise your risks. If you really want to do it the hard way, do it upwind on a small boat while hanging on in order not to fall overboard
. As far as I am concerned, there is no need for that. Getting it down behind the main is immensely easier and safer even if it means losing a couple of miles.
If your furler fails (breaking the drum at the bottom or control line is a classic), you can end up having to get your full genny down and out of the groove in more or less any wind strength. They don't come down nicely. Having a few ideas about how to get it down is not wasted knowledge. If there is too much wind, in my experience you lose the sail almost no matter what.
If you compare with a single
headsail setup and sail in strong winds areas, a hanked set of sails
delivers rather more than a "marginal difference in performance" as well as a lot more sail life. Having the right sail forward and sailing properly also makes a huge difference in terms of safety
in heavy weather
As you said, every time you go out, you can learn something and get better. It is great. It is a steep learning
curve, but don't cut your options short either. What "everybody does" can be far from what you should be doing. If you go out and sail in 30 knots when you don't have to, you are already not mainstream.