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Old 05-06-2016, 11:52   #31
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Re: Refurbishing The Cabin Sole.

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So what are the pros and cons of light sanding and then applying new coats of what ever versus removing all old finish. I have sole which has Epiphanes and is not in bad shape, just a little aged. I am tempted to just sand and then reapply but I do not want to be lazy.
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Yep, just do that. BTW, there's lot of dirt embedded usually so clean it well. I would start with that, a rag and dish soap/water.
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...you might try adding groundup walnut shells to the paint/varnish. The particles float in the mix...
This is not the way to do it. Instead, sprinkle the walnut shells onto the wet coat of varnish or paint; let dry, then vacuum off the excess. Then apply topcoat. It produces a fairly rough texture as compared to Griptex.
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Re: Refurbishing The Cabin Sole.

Itís been quite a while since I started this thread and received all the interesting replies and different options.
First Iíd like to thank everyone who contributed, and tell you that I eventually restored the floorboards and achieved a shinny non-slip surface.
I did this by simply not sanding the floors after each coat of varnish. After three coats of Epifanes clear gloss wood varnish the floors were very shiny, but rough to the touch, and most importantly for me, non slip even when wet.
It was a very big job on my 45 footer. The removable floorboards were not so bad because I did them in my garage on a bench. But the fixed floors were hard work, first to strip and sand, then a final cleaning before re-varnishing.
On the up side, I covered all my material costs by selling an article to Cruising World magazine. Unfortunately I canít publish this on my website until it is printed in the magazine, but if anyone needs to do this you can PM me and I can send the article.
Thatís one more big project crossed off the list.
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Re: Refurbishing The Cabin Sole.

Curious why they came out rough from just not sanding between coats? Did you use satin? ... or "kill" the varnish with something? I see you stripped... so you had bare wood to start finishing? Maybe the grain raised up from that, and that is the roughness you speak of?
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Re: Refurbishing The Cabin Sole.

Maybe the grain raised up from that, and that is the roughness you speak of?

Thatís exactly what I did.
The first coat raised the grain and I simply laid another on top. I used Epifanes gloss, which is like treacle, compared to other makes. It remained coarse to the touch and very glossy.
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Maybe the grain raised up from that, and that is the roughness you speak of?

Thatís exactly what I did.
The first coat raised the grain and I simply laid another on top. I used Epifanes gloss, which is like treacle, compared to other makes. It remained coarse to the touch and very glossy.
Had you done this previously? We found Epifane to fail if not roughed-up/sanded between coats. Seems it needs the tooth to get the coats to bond correctly.

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I have used Epifanes before and noticed that the instructions say: Due to itís unique formulation, this finish does not require sanding between coats, provided recoating occurs within 72 hours.
If you are using it in a conventional way, to achieve a high gloss smooth surface, you would rub down between multiple coats. But as I said in my original post: I was looking for something which would look good yet be non-slip, and by experiment I just laid on a second coat without sanding, and itís exactly that. What it would be like with say four coats I donít know, but this is inside the boat and I donít need UV protection.
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I have used Epifanes before and noticed that the instructions say: Due to itís unique formulation, this finish does not require sanding between coats, provided recoating occurs within 72 hours.
If you are using it in a conventional way, to achieve a high gloss smooth surface, you would rub down between multiple coats. But as I said in my original post: I was looking for something which would look good yet be non-slip, and by experiment I just laid on a second coat without sanding, and itís exactly that. What it would be like with say four coats I donít know, but this is inside the boat and I donít need UV protection.

The 72 hours is for the Epifanes Wood Finish Clear Gloss.... it's their non-sand fomula. The most commonly used Epifanes Clear Gloss does require sanding between coats. Two different products, but if it worked for you without sanding, that's all that matters.

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