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Old 16-08-2016, 13:29   #16
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

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Old 16-08-2016, 13:49   #17
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

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The 'do it close to home" is good advice, if for no other reason than that refits often take a lot longer than anticipated (my wife has pointed this out to me on several occasions) and it's nice to be able to sleep in your own bed. I see you're in Sidney, so I suggest talking to the kind people at Penquin Marine in Campbelltown. If they can't do what you need, they can point you in the right direction.

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John, while it is true that there are good skills available in the Sydney area, it is one of the most expensive places we've ever encountered to hire work done. Plus, without wishing to rile any feathers, the work ethic is not universally strong. This would be one of the last places I'd recommend for a big refit.

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i am doing mine in mazatlan using independent workers not affiliated with the yard or associated businesses.
it is good to have good friends in the business.
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Old 16-08-2016, 14:37   #19
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

Some great advice here. I agree that Sydney is just too expensive. I've heard Tasmania is a good option in Australia. NZ gets a good rap which doesn't surprise me although boat prices seem a bit higher there than elsewhere. Interesting to hear you can access good skills in Thailand - I thought it would be a cheap but not necessarily high quality destination for boat work. I keep hearing good things about Saint Martin. There must also be some good options in the Med like Turkey. I guess there are just too many variables like exchange rates, taxes, supply costs, shore costs etc etc for there to be one best place.
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Old 16-08-2016, 14:53   #20
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

Hi, once i contemplated bying an elder Mason 44 cutter because I think it's one of the best looking boats in the world. I contacted Maine Yacht Center and they responded in full to all my questions and figures in a very rational and thorough way abot costs of a total refit. I'm still impressed. Depending on the size of the project, that would be my first call in US. If in Europe, I think I would Contact Berthon Yachts in Lymington. Both places are probable quite expensive, but they hold all the international certifications and can do hull, rigs, engines, electronics and so forth.

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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

Budawang,
I know exactly where you are coming from, I am contemplating the same thing.

I have several places that I visited during my circumnavigation and the choice will be the one closest to where I buy the boat, you see, the way I figure it, if I save 50k by buying the boat in a certain area, then I will refit her there.
  • If I buy her in Asia, then I will go to Phuket or Pattaya, Thailand.
  • If I buy her in the USA, perhaps Beaufort, NC.
  • If I buy in EU, Marmaris, Turkey.
  • If in the Carib, then Chaguarama in Trinidad or St Marteen.

Certainly not considering travelling a long distance with a boat in need of refit.
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Old 16-08-2016, 17:03   #22
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I can personally recommend Subic Bay or Cebu in the Philippines.
We have done every conceivable upgrade and refit on our 1981 trawler over the last 6 years with good skilled artisans available for all trades. Duty Free Materials also easy to get for foreign flagged boats thru Broadwater Marine.
Disclaimer: I just recently took over ownership of Broadwater Marine the largest Chandlery in the Philippines with 5 branches around the country.
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

What I was paying in NZ in 14/15..... NZ$65 for general labour... NZ$100/120 for 'skilled'.

That was 'company employed'... not freelance...
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

Italy 40eur/h vat included 22%.

Nowhere in Italy you can work on dry boat

Malta 35eur/h + 18% cat
You can have your manpower...
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Have you considered just getting a boat ready to go and needing only routine maintenance? Lots of boats out there prepped and then health issues, plans changed or spouse balked after first squall. Big savings in time, money and headaches.
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We can recommend St Martin.

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I might be in the Caribbean later in the year. Can you give your reasons for recommending St Maarten as somewhere to refit?
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

It's a buyers market, look instead for a boat that's already in good shape. Minimize your refit and enjoy more.
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

the best place in world for refit is where your boat is located and requiring refit. easy peasy.
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Re: Refitting - best place in the world

It makes no sense to choose some third world country simply based on their low (relatively unskilled) labor rates and lay days.

Also you need a source for marine grade materials and parts.
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I can personally recommend Subic Bay or Cebu in the Philippines.
We have done every conceivable upgrade and refit on our 1981 trawler over the last 6 years with good skilled artisans available for all trades. Duty Free Materials also easy to get for foreign flagged boats thru Broadwater Marine.
Disclaimer: I just recently took over ownership of Broadwater Marine the largest Chandlery in the Philippines with 5 branches around the country.

May well be true but they have limitations. They could not haul my 60' monohull - just too big for them apparently.


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