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Old 03-01-2011, 13:39   #1
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Rebuilding Winches

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I have 2/ Barient and 2/ Harkin Wenches I would like ot rebuild. is it possible to do it your self or should I send these into an expert and if so where do i send them?

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You can get rebuild kits but it would be a good idea to send them to a shop to have it done if you haven't ever worked with electric motors before.
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Hello,

I have 2/ Barient and 2/ Harkin Wenches I would like ot rebuild. is it possible to do it your self or should I send these into an expert and if so where do i send them?

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That is a lotta wenches to keep happy.

Winches are not that complicated. I would not try one the first time without the exploded views though. Cut a hole in a box to put over the winch when taking it apart. Those bearing sleeves are real springy and like to take off into the water.
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I have been a Building Contractor for the last 20 years, although I don't have any experiences with Elec motors I am fairly skilled. On a scale of 1-10 how difficult is a d.i.y rebuild?
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I have been a Building Contractor for the last 20 years, although I don't have any experiences with Elec motors I am fairly skilled. On a scale of 1-10 how difficult is a d.i.y rebuild?
If your just maintaining the winch... not that difficult as the motors a seperate unit.. the drums I imagine will lift off just the same as a manual winch and the springs will try to shoot all over the place... once all apart soak in a de-greaser then re-assemble and grease.. replace all the springs whether they look ok or not... saves many a curse down the line..
The box idea is a good one...lol
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Where does it say that they are electric winches (wenches)?

And what does "rebuild" mean here?

Not much can be done to regular winches beyond cleaning and re-lubing. Possibly replace bearings if the old ones are broken/pitted/corroded or replace worn pawls/springs. If the drums are alloy, their bearing surfaces could be buggered, and that's a machine shop job to fix (bore and sleeve).

More info from OP, please.

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These are manuel winches. Not Elec. The winches seem old and worn out and I was wondering If i can rebuild them or send them in.
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Here is a link to a recent thread on winch grease and there is some good info. on cleaning, greasing and oiling winches. This isn't a job to be afraid of, it just needs you to be careful. Have some extra springs and pawls on hand and don't put to much grease on. No grease on the springs/pawls, only light oil like 3 in 1 oil. Go to the Harkin and Barient web sites and you should be able to find instructions and pictures of how everything goes together. Good luck.

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These are manuel winches. Not Elec. The winches seem old and worn out and I was wondering If i can rebuild them or send them in.
G'Day Dofthsea,

Mate, this still isn't enough info for any of us to help you. For starters, please describe why they seem "old and worn out". Are they frozen up or stiff to turn? Do they bind up under load? Is there too much slop between the drum and the spindle? Do the pawls slip under load?

And what size are they, and what materials are they made from (bronze or aluminium)?

Really, the first thing you'll have to do is take them apart, wash out all the dirt and old grease, inspect the parts for faults, re-grease/oil them and put them back together for a trial run. This will likely make them serviceable for you, for winches are really durable units. If there are parts that need replacing (bearings or pawls for instance) The Australian Winch Co has parts for most Barient winches, and Harken may have them for their units -- I have no experience with them.

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The two Speed Barients don't seem very smooth. I have a friend and he has winches that are close to new and they just seem like they are very smooth and the sound of the clicking is perfect shall we say. Were as mine seem a bit ruff when your turing them and the sound of the clicking as you turn winch
The Harkens are 32 and the Barients are 27 Two Speed
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The two Speed Barients don't seem very smooth. I have a friend and he has winches that are close to new and they just seem like they are very smooth and the sound of the clicking is perfect shall we say. Were as mine seem a bit ruff when your turing them and the sound of the clicking as you turn winch
The Harkens are 32 and the Barients are 27 Two Speed
Dofthsea,

If you will follow the general instructions that I posted above, I suspect that you will find that your winches will work just fine. Sounds like they just need basic servicing.

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Thanks for the info. I think I will just try and do a basic maintenence and see if they improve.
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If you will follow the general instructions that I posted above, I suspect that you will find that your winches will work just fine. Sounds like they just need basic servicing.

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You'd be surprised how lack of regular maintainance can make winches sieze up... salt water, air polution etc finds its way in there... you'll be amazed the difference...
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http://www.harken.com/pdf/48.2_05.pdf
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You'd be surprised how lack of regular maintainance can make winches sieze up... salt water, air polution etc finds its way in there... you'll be amazed the difference...
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http://www.harken.com/pdf/48.2_05.pdf
Yeh, its one more thing to be looked at this summer. All my winches are solid in the winter and barely turnable in the summer. God only knows when they were last serviced. All Barients too.

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