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23-06-2013, 11:54
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Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
Looking at purchasing a 40' boat in Mexico . . . rigging is over ten years old, so I want to re-rig her. Currently has swaged fittings, so I may be able to use most of them again. Just trying to get ballpark figures for cost of this job . . .
any thoughts or help appreciated.
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23-06-2013, 11:55
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
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Originally Posted by petert96753
Looking at purchasing a 40' boat in Mexico . . . rigging is over ten years old, so I want to re-rig her. Currently has swaged fittings, so I may be able to use most of them again. Just trying to get ballpark figures for cost of this job . . .
any thoughts or help appreciated.
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How are you planning on reusing a swaged fitting?
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23-06-2013, 12:00
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
Ooops . . . I thought a swaged fitting meant you could use it again . . . perhaps, I need to
do more research ?
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23-06-2013, 12:04
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
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Originally Posted by petert96753
Ooops . . . I thought a swaged fitting meant you could use it again . . . perhaps, I need to
do more research ?
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Yes, def. With a swagged fitting, the wire rope is put into the fitting and "crimped" with such force that it should literally forge the fitting and wire together into a single solid piece. Thus it is permanently coupled and cannot be reused.
You may be thinking of sta-lok or norseman style fittings which are designed to be reused when you replace the wire.
You may want to really read up on rigging before undertaking this process as it is critical to the safety of the vessel and you should be very familiar and comfortable with it (and what is right/wrong) before doing it. Even if hiring an expert to rerig the vessel for you... You should be able to look over their shoulder and know if what they are doing makes sense or not. I've learned not to trust anyone when it comes to our boat. You as the skipper are the final authority.
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23-06-2013, 12:06
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
Your best bet might be de-rig your vessel in Mexico, mark the shrouds and stays and take them back to the US to have new ones cut and swaged from the length of the old ones and bring the new ones back to the mexican yard. I've had some problematic experiences with rigging a sailboat using Mexican product but their yard work is generally pretty good. Good luck with your project. Phil
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23-06-2013, 12:07
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
As Humphrey Bogart stated in Casablanca "I was misinformed."
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23-06-2013, 18:41
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
Buy a die penetrant kit and you or some one with more knowledge inspect the rigging yourself. 10 years old may have some cracks or may still be in good shape. A lot will depend on your intended use of the boat. If you think you are going to leave Mexico and go around the world, then just spend the money and replace everything. If you are going to cruise Mexico, and bring it back to the states, then a very good inspection, with replacement of anything that looks dodgy, should do you fine. A lot depends on how full your bucket full of money is????_____Good Luck._____Grant.
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28-06-2013, 14:11
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
if rig is only 10 yrs old, use it,. it has probably been sitting idle for ten years and is perfectly fine. other than that--yes there is civilization in mexico--you can have anything done--if you go to some places, almost anything done-depends on the yard..lol
where is this boat and which yard are you considering....
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28-06-2013, 14:30
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
Mexico's a big place, where are you specifically? On the Pacific coast I'd do your work in La Paz if at all possible. It's not the best place (in my opinion) but the availability of parts and supplies, along with haul charges, makes it very appealing.
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28-06-2013, 15:39
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
there are many places on west coast of mexico where this work could easily be done and for not a lot of money. if you are in mazatlan, there are places to have it done, and people to do that work.
banderas bay has 2 yards, on e less and one more pricey. they are both equi[ed to do this kind of work. the rigger in la cruz is pete--he is good dude. fair pricing.
let me know where you are in mexico--it truly is a large place.
it can be done in barra de navidad, but you would need to do it yourself.
san blas (south of mazatlan) yard--i do not know if they have a rigger...
ps--you do not have to haul or even have a crane to re rig a boat.
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28-06-2013, 16:30
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
Thing must have changed a little since I left Pacific Mexico in 2012...
We knew of one rigging company in La Cruz, who was ok, but not great. Also ordering rigging took some time and there was no place that could swage the fittings.
You originally asked price and didn't tell us what type of rig the boat is... Big difference between a sloop and a cutter rigged ketch.
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28-06-2013, 19:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremiason
Thing must have changed a little since I left Pacific Mexico in 2012...
We knew of one rigging company in La Cruz, who was ok, but not great. Also ordering rigging took some time and there was no place that could swage the fittings.
You originally asked price and didn't tell us what type of rig the boat is... Big difference between a sloop and a cutter rigged ketch.
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That's still there with the same results. La Paz is way better for boat work.
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28-06-2013, 19:36
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Re-Rig 40' monohull in Mexico
the place you end up is dependent also on where you are. i would not go to la paz if i were on mainland mexico. it isnt worth it.
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