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Old 24-10-2010, 16:08   #61
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OK, Mimsy, I think you have probably gotten a lot of feedback here. I do have to say, at the risk of offending a few people, that anyone who is hurt or burned by a non-pressurized alchohol stove like an Origo, I would hate to be anchored anywhere near them if they try to use a PROPANE stove!!!!!

My six year old granddaughter can read the instructions and safely fill the cannisters on the Origo!! You tip the canister a bit and fill it and when it starts to overflow you stop! No problem! EVER!

I was a safety consultant in my former life and the Origo is MUCH safer than a propane stove!!!!! Like anything a propane stove is safe if installed and used safely. In the hands of some people, of course, it is a bomb waiting to go off.

I know that I am an old fuddy-duddy now, still using alcohol, still having paper charts onboard and actually using them instead of calling the Coast Guard because I'm lost when the chartplotter or GPS fails, etc. Point is there is no reason you have to have propane just because many people do now.
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Old 24-10-2010, 18:20   #62
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I never imagined going back to an alcohol stove but this thread has been good reading. I always thought my old alcohol stove that I didn't like was slow to make coffee but how big a deal is that? And I don't cook things, I heat things.

The refill issue is a big advantage for alcohol. And two of my favorite words: "simple and efficient".

I'm sure most American readers knew Mark was making up the 357 boats exploding in Kansas. There aren't even 357 people in Kansas. There is nothing whatsoever in Kansas.
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Old 24-10-2010, 18:39   #63
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ran alcohol in bahamas last season.pain to get and expensive if you cook alot.anyone who is skeptical/scared of a propane stove on a boat should stick to cruisin forums not water.propane for this crew.
Well that was not only bordering on incomprehensible but was rude and unhelpful as well. I'm continuing to think about the way to go but I'm certain I won't give much credit to the opinion of someone who cannot formulate an intelligent sentence. Unless of course, English is not your native tongue or you are very, very young.

Hyperbole and a Half: The Alot is Better Than You at Everything
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That poor alot is getting cooked! In the Bahamas! With PROPANE!!!
Poor alot.
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you shouldnt then.alcohol is your answer.problem solved.
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and true sailors never did write well.yuppie.
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Old 24-10-2010, 20:39   #67
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Yuppie?!?! Bwahahaha.
You sir, are hilarity itself. Do continue to spout hyperbole and ad hominem attacks. I shall continue to imagine you cuddling up in your berth with an alot. In my minds eye, the alot has more back hair than you, but just by a smidge.

Now, trying to get back to a useful discourse...
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and true sailors never did write well.yuppie.
Tell that to the Pardey's, Dashew's, Street, Hiscock's, etc....
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I never imagined going back to an alcohol stove but this thread has been good reading. I always thought my old alcohol stove that I didn't like was slow to make coffee but how big a deal is that? And I don't cook things, I heat things.

The refill issue is a big advantage for alcohol. And two of my favorite words: "simple and efficient".
I am a big fan of simple and efficient. My next query is how available is the fuel and what is the cost comparasion to propane?
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Old 25-10-2010, 18:30   #70
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I am a big fan of simple and efficient. My next query is how available is the fuel and what is the cost comparasion to propane?

I don't have the figures any more.
Alcohol costs more per btu.
But a months worth of cooking would make it just a few bucks. Doubt it would be more than 15.

The consensus is it is harder to get outside of the US.

Where are you going to go?
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The Carribean for a bit, then who knows? Either Mexico/S. America or the Eastern US but eventually we will end up in Europe where its dead easy and cheap for fuel. In pricing out the systems, I'm looking at spending either $600 for an Origo refit vs. almost $3000 to have a safe propane system.

I'm thinking I can buy a lot of fuel for $3,000...
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Old 25-10-2010, 20:02   #72
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I own this alchol stove, came with my boat.
iv been a chef in some of the best restaurants in Montreal.
this october iv been using it at home exclusivly (no convensional stove nada) my friends and family expect nothing but the best foods from me, my gilfriend wich I feed every day is my worst critic.

no one not even myself complained about the meals iv prepared this month. your skills will let you down befor the stove cababilities.

I can imagine feeding friends on my boat in the tropics with fresh foods and good wine, no need for anything els.
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Old 25-10-2010, 20:14   #73
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Arm is healing..painfully...looks like two weeks out of work and possibly plastic surgery..fun.

wasn't the stoves fault..my own dumb move..but you can be sure that if i stick with alky, i'll damn sure be more careful of it...
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Oh Zopi, I do hope you recover well and quickly.
I don't take any open flame for granted. I grew up on a farm, where there were 1,000 ways to maim yourself everywhere you looked. It has instilled a healthy respect in me.
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I'm usually pretty careful with anything...just made a dumb mistake...like they say:stoopid should hurt.
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