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View Poll Results: How satisfied are you with your project?
Very satisfied. I was already thinking of next project while still working on current project. 8 42.11%
Satisfied. Glad I did it, but will not take on another major project unless have to. 10 52.63%
Not very satisfied. I finished the project but it was very difficult. Never again. 1 5.26%
Complete disaster. Did not finish. One of the biggest mistakes I have ever made. 0 0%
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Old 29-08-2013, 10:30   #1
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Project Satisfaction Poll

For those that have taken on (not necessarily finished) a project such as building or refitting a cruising vessel.

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Old 29-08-2013, 16:22   #2
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Very satisfied. Other guy's boat. I have learned heaps.

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Satisfied. Very pleased to have done it, but could never afford to go again on this scale.
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Old 31-08-2013, 09:32   #4
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I am a bit surprised that no one voted in the negative categories (yet?). Then again, I suppose that if someone had a "complete disaster" experience they likely are not boating and therefore not posting on a cruiser forum.

Still, the common advise given (even from me who loves to build) to someone who is proposing a major build or rebuild is: "It will take 4X as long and be 4X as expensive than your estimates and unless you really love to build - DO NOT DO IT".

I am wondering if maybe the above advise is a little to harsh?

Anyway, thanks to those that voted.

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Not harsh, just realistic. been there - done that twice. Never again.
Wasted years of not sailing for years of working my ass off. My hobby is riding boats not fixing boats.
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I am a bit surprised that no one voted in the negative categories (yet?). Then again, I suppose that if someone had a "complete disaster" experience they likely are not boating and therefore not posting on a cruiser forum.

Still, the common advise given (even from me who loves to build) to someone who is proposing a major build or rebuild is: "It will take 4X as long and be 4X as expensive than your estimates and unless you really love to build - DO NOT DO IT".

I am wondering if maybe the above advise is a little to harsh?

Anyway, thanks to those that voted.

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Maybe the term "satisfied" is interpreted in a current context, and throws off the results? Many project people are currently satisfied about the outcome of their project, because ... hey, they're sailing. But in retrospect, they would never recommend it because they would never put themselves through it again. Ever. So, they tend to be negativist in their advice and postings, while they are glad they have what they have (and are thus satisfied).

Maybe that's why boat builders are uniformly told "not to do it" on this forum?
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Old 31-08-2013, 13:46   #7
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Maybe the term "satisfied" is interpreted in a current context, and throws off the results? Many project people are currently satisfied about the outcome of their project, because ... hey, they're sailing. But in retrospect, they would never recommend it because they would never put themselves through it again. Ever. So, they tend to be negativist in their advice and postings, while they are glad they have what they have (and are thus satisfied).

Maybe that's why boat builders are uniformly told "not to do it" on this forum?
Yes, ( and what Mr B said too). After owning a few fixer uppers, I think buying a ready to cruise boat is the way to go. There will still be plenty of work, maintaining, and modifying for your specific wants/needs.
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Old 31-08-2013, 13:58   #8
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Yes, ( and what Mr B said too). After owning a few fixer uppers, I think buying a ready to cruise boat is the way to go. There will still be plenty of work, maintaining, and modifying for your specific wants/needs.
Absolutely, had enough of fibreglass, epoxy and paint, however, it kept me and the local chandlers gainfully employed for 6 months.

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I selected "very satisfied", but I might not have understood the meaning of "project"! I've replaced some balsa deck coring, standing rigging (shrouds and spars), sails, engine, generator, most all electronics, rudder rebuild, through hulls, rub rail, dinghy davits, wind generator, radar, topside expoxy and more. You'd think that amount of work would designate mine as a project boat, but I was always cruising my boat over the time of this work and the work on this one boat has been going on for 29 years. So, is this project boat? .....and, if so, are all older boats project boats?
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I think simply those who got very dissatisfied with their projects have given up on boats and boat forums!

Sort of like walking into the dentist's asking who has a tooth problem and expecting the results to represent the population everages.

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I think simply those who got very dissatisfied with their projects have given up on boats and boat forums!

Sort of like walking into the dentist's asking who has a tooth problem and expecting the results to represent the population everages.

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Yes, we should probable ignore the "complete disaster" category for this reason.

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I selected "very satisfied", but I might not have understood the meaning of "project"! I've replaced some balsa deck coring, standing rigging (shrouds and spars), sails, engine, generator, most all electronics, rudder rebuild, through hulls, rub rail, dinghy davits, wind generator, radar, topside expoxy and more. You'd think that amount of work would designate mine as a project boat, but I was always cruising my boat over the time of this work and the work on this one boat has been going on for 29 years. So, is this project boat? .....and, if so, are all older boats project boats?
Your example was not quite what I had in mind when creating the poll. But now that it is on my mind, I reckon responses from these type of scenarios have value also.

Making a good, simple poll is difficult.

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Maybe the term "satisfied" is interpreted in a current context, and throws off the results? Many project people are currently satisfied about the outcome of their project, because ... hey, they're sailing. But in retrospect, they would never recommend it because they would never put themselves through it again. Ever. So, they tend to be negativist in their advice and postings, while they are glad they have what they have (and are thus satisfied).

Maybe that's why boat builders are uniformly told "not to do it" on this forum?
+1. Satisfaction of result did not mean I'd want to go through the activity again.
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Doing keel bolts now.......I Thought all this was regular maintenance.....WHAT I'm OCD...

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didnt vote--there is no category for cruising your project, which i am doing..my project is many projects and i am very happy with progress so far---and i will not buy another boat as this one will last me my lifetime. ruling out dire emergency.
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