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Old 20-01-2012, 14:07   #91
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Not familiar with any wax/protectants from Awlgrip. They specifically recommend never coating with wax or anything else. There are no benefits to waxing Awlgrip.
You are correct for the wax part. However, a polymer coating is not waxing. It provides a semi-durable non yellowing coating that will in fact protect the paint system as long as the coating is intact, which is 6 times longer than a wax. It will also prevent staining during that time.

I see that AwlGrip sells this now as AwlCare Protective Polymer Sealer. The product sheet shows compatibility with Awlgrip, Awlcraft 2000 and Awlgrip 2.

The RejeX that I brought up is a similar product and widely available. It is made by the manufacturer of the CorrosionX product. I have the feeling that there will be a price difference between the two.

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I guess they changed the name or discontinued the AwlProtect. I don't think it was a wax product, per se. I bet the 'awlcare' is the same thing.

http://www.awlgrip.com/products/main...e/awlcare.aspx
http://www.awlgrip.com/products/main...e/awlwash.aspx
Yes, it is the Awlcare Polymer Sealer now. Here is the PDF: http://www.awlgrip.com/MPYACMDatashe...6+A+eng+A4.pdf

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Re: Polishing Linear Polyurethane Imperfections

Nice! I've used the Starbrite quite a bit, never seen this stuff. And we talk to factory reps all the time. Obviously polymers aren't the same as wax, but we still call it "wax", as the application is the same. Haven't used Rejex either, I'll have to give them a try.
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Old 20-01-2012, 14:15   #94
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Nice! I've used the Starbrite quite a bit, never seen this stuff. And we talk to factory reps all the time. Obviously polymers aren't the same as wax, but we still call it "wax", as the application is the same. Haven't used Rejex either, I'll have to give them a try.
It's a neat product. I first tried RejeX as a replacement UV coating on Polycarbonate (Lexan) windows after sanding and buffing them back to transparent. It outperformed other products I tested for that, even those much more expensive.

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Re: Polishing Linear Polyurethane Imperfections

I am a little leery of polymer stuff (although I'd trust the awl-whatever), and here's why:

down here in Bayou Land, the water is brown, and hulls turn yellow. I used to have a Hobie 16 that I'd bleach and coat with a polymer (can't remember its name). I always was pleased with the result.

So when I got the trimaran, after a year or two the hull started to yellow, I bleached it, and tried the same stuff. It went weird on me. Like it turned grayish and I can't remember what all. But I ended up spending a fair bit of time wiping off three damn hulls with acetone to get that crap the Hell off my boat. I'm probably gonna grow an extra tit or something from all this acetone. I guess my husband will be happy about that.

I decided to try the StarBrite on a friend's recommendation. Knew that I shouldn't be waxing Awlgrip, but since the paint job is old, I didn't have much to lose. As I've said, it's been a good thing. Winter comes, we put the boat up on blocks, wash, bleach, and teflon wax stuff. 1x/year, good for me.

Gotta go two states away to get the awlstuff, but I guess for a once yearly application it wouldn't be too bad.

Jedi, are you by chance in a brown water part of the world? I'm interested in the rejex seeing as I can probably get it locally.
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It's a neat product. I first tried RejeX as a replacement UV coating on Polycarbonate (Lexan) windows after sanding and buffing them back to transparent. It outperformed other products I tested for that, even those much more expensive.

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Nice, I'll try it first. It must be cheaper than anything with "Awl" in the name anyway. If we can convince new paint jobs that Awlcare will make the job last longer, it's one more step in the process. Means more billable hours for us! A happy boss is a good boss...
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How about the neighbors boat 3 feet away with no masking on it? How respectful is that, trashing someone elses boat out of sheer laziness or lack of know-how? Not to mention the cars parked right there. Here it wouldn't even be legal to do that, ground wet or not, and it doesn't look wet. Prepping for topcoat with 180 is just beyond ameteurish, any study would tell you that's a terrible idea. And so is shooting a boat that's not even blocked on bare dirt and masked with newspaper. Sorry but thems the facts. Next time tell your buddy to come see us, we usually do a 40' trawler for about half that.
...boy...no kidding..it irks me to no end seeing this stuff so a couple of bucks can be saved. Once when I hauled, some morons were grinding on there steel stink-pot. When I arrived back the next day and the dew started the rust stains, everyone was denying it. People want to get theirs at the cost of others.
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Surprising. With all those old woodies I would think you would be master of enamel tipping. Do you enamel old wood boats, and do you spray them? It's been a long time for me since I got to enamel a woodie. I spray enameled a Dragon Super Jet Black a few years ago, none since then. Just not so many wooden boats here as there used to be. We gave the Dragon what we call the Lamborghini finish-longboarded to 220 grit in fairing. Needs to be dead fair for Super Jet Black. It looked incredible. One of my friends here in town runs a small crew which specializes in enameling wooden boats, seems like they get all of these jobs now.

Varnish tipping, yes. Enamel to a degree. I spray the last coats when I can. Now we are doing Centauri on a boat we're flipping and rubbing it out followed by a good buff. Incredible gloss.
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