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12-01-2012, 06:50
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Re: Place for gas bottles
Be carefull if you have an electric windlass with wires , relays and electric motor IN the anchor well........ a spark can be fatal if there is some propane leaks............
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12-01-2012, 07:09
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Re: Place for gas bottles
Yep. Nice trick. But not very easy in a small boat with bigger gas flasks.
I have seen many US boats with the bottles held at the stern rail. I like this solution as any fuel leaked never an issue. They are also very easy to reach and turn the supply off at the bottle.
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12-01-2012, 07:20
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Re: Place for gas bottles
Hard to get around a dedicated gas locker. You might have to keep them on deck, however unsightly and inconvenient that is. Like others I am assuming you are talking about spare bottles, not bottles hooked up to your gas system.
I have space behind a folding transom platform which does not communicate with the bilge. I keep my dinghy fuel tank there, among other things, and would be a good place for spare gas bottles if I needed them.
Storage of dinghy fuel is a similar and similarly dangerous question, to storing spare gas bottles. I have actually used my anchor locker for this as suggested by the OP. Before using the windlass, I would always take out the fuel canister.
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12-01-2012, 14:16
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Thanks Gord. That puts paid to that idea. Thanks to everyone for ideas.
Coach bolt.
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12-01-2012, 14:34
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
Ya just remembered another job I need to do with bigger bottles
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12-01-2012, 14:55
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
My boat was designed so the cockpit drains are actually in the lockers with scuppers leading from the cockpit. This allows the propane to be stored safely in the cockpit locker, any leakage would go overboard (as was the original intention for the fuel tank 75 years ago..today that is taboo).
Putting it in the anchor well gets it out of the way, but if you burn the propane out of the line after you turn it off at the tank (the safe thing to do) alot of propane is wasted.
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12-01-2012, 15:03
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
My 1984 Dufour 35 was designed as a "fast blue water Passage maker" it would have to be fast it was designed with a 5 lb gas bottle! SO I will have to build seats on the stern rail 10lb works 20 would last lots longer.
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12-01-2012, 15:34
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Eternal Member
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
An option for a second tank for me would be under a seat across the back of the cockpit
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12-01-2012, 15:52
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
Just as long as it can vent overboard:-) My seat is part of the lazerette which is part of the engine space, which flows to the bilge. I don't think I have much option. TRy and make it look descent.
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13-01-2012, 06:56
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coachbolt61
Yes you are right. But what about a place for a 9 lb bottle. Is there any negatives beside the weight? Btw my ketch is 40ft so one bottle in the bow is ok for weight.
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Brillant. Store painted common steel gas bottles in the wetest part of the yacht.
If you don't have an air-tight gas storage locker, consider installing a length of PVC pipe vertically in a stern locker with an end cap on the bottom tapped for a 1/4" drain pipe to a small through-hull in the transom and a screw top. A length of SS TIG welding rod bent in a L-Shape with a finger loop formed on the top that sits between the bottles and the inside pipe wall will allow you to extract the bottles.
FWIW...
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13-01-2012, 09:38
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
Has anyone ever used those fglass bottles where you can see how much gas is in the tank?
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13-01-2012, 10:37
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
I have not used Vertical Composite Propane Tank
Vertical Composite Propane Tank
But I like the idea an think I might do an upgade to them.
Nice to be able to see fuel is left in the tank just by looking at it.
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13-01-2012, 11:00
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthPacific
Has anyone ever used those fglass bottles where you can see how much gas is in the tank?
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Lots of threads on that
On the cruisersforum search button the custom google search works well
propane fiberglass tank - Google Search
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13-01-2012, 11:07
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Re: Place for Gas Bottles
This reads to me as the "system". I'm not sure that they are necessarily talking about the storage of a spare bottle. That said I wouldn't want to store a bottle where big heavy things can try to knock the valve off.
John
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Originally Posted by GordMay
Excerpted from ABYC A-1: MARINE LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM GAS (LPG) SYSTEMS
... LPG locker: a purpose designed enclosure to hold only the LP gas bottle(s) and the associated regulator(s), safety equipment and hose(s) ...
... LPG lockers shall not be used for storage of any equipment other than LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating equipment, and LPG safety devices ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coachbolt61
Thanks Gord. That puts paid to that idea. Thanks to everyone for ideas.
Coach bolt.
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13-01-2012, 15:14
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Re: Place for gas bottles
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel
Yep. Nice trick. But not very easy in a small boat with bigger gas flasks.
I have seen many US boats with the bottles held at the stern rail. I like this solution as any fuel leaked never an issue. They are also very easy to reach and turn the supply off at the bottle.
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That is whay I did, put two on stern rail. Easy to change and when I emtpy one its time to refill so I never run out.
Mark
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