Hi everyone, I am brand new to your forum and have been reading all of the great advise everyone has to give, now I am asking for a little advise for myself. I have a Lancer 30 that I just bought, and I want to paint the hull above the water line dark blue. Right now she is white and chalking. She has had a few small repairs to the gel coat over the years that make pollishing out of the question. I have auto body experience but have never painted a boat. Any advise on products to use and process would be helpful. I have a place to pull the boat out and do the work and probably most of the tools. Thanks in advance for the advise.
Right now in Fig da Foz Portugal we've some guys pushing Vinyl Paint....
looks pretty good on the Beneteau their doing right now...
Be interesting to see what it looks like by the end of next season...
To do the boat over in white will save you time, and money. Not to mention if you do it yourself the flaws will be near invisible. I painted my cat red over red, and it turned out nice with roll & tip AWL-GRIP..........i2f
Thanks for all of the advise, I never would have believed that rolling on color would be an option. After seeing the boat in the pic I am a believer. Thanks again to all. Any other helpful tips are always welcome.
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Re: Painting the hull above the water line?
Well, if you already have the tools and skills for a spray job, you will likely get better results that way rather than starting at the steep end of the roll/tip learning curve. I've tried that and it ain't easy!
There are lots of excellent paint products available. Each one comes with its own set of detailed application requirements, and most manufacturers supply a manual with the necessary advice about thinners, retarders, anti-blushers, accelerators, and a bewildering array of other additives. Stirling in particular has very complicated combinations of additives.
Having tried a couple of products on the decks, I decided to have a pro paint our topsides, and am glad I did. But if you are indeed a skilled painter, there's no reason to pay someone else!
Incidentally, we ended up using an automotive LPU paint (on the pro's advice). They had found it had better gloss retention than the marine products, and was significantly cheaper. Now only a year old, still looking great...
Finally, consider carefully your decision of putting blue over white. May look great at first, but every scratch will stand out starkly as a white stripe in your blue, and that can be pretty annoying.
Cheers and good luck
Jim and Ann
s/v Insatiable back in MBTBC marina, waiting for next eye jobs to be done
What I found to make the roll & tip easier was making sure the rolling was spread out thin. This avoid runs, and wanting to touch the paint again with the brush minutes later, which leaves streaks. A small board will give you a good place to practice. A gentle hand & patience will save you a ton of money, and as I typed before white will hide any flaws. Then again I am partial to RED................BEFORE & AFTER........i2f
As you know, spraying will give you a mirror finish. Rolling, depending on how good you are, will give you less than a mirror finish. Being a professional auto body guy yourself, I don't think you would be happy with a brush job. I'm sure have seen that occasional car on the road where the paint has been brushed on or has a Krylon job which looks horrible.
Use a marine grade LPU paint. Automotive pants do not work well on boats because they need to be softer to avoid cracking as at places where a hull might flex and hold up to a salt waterenvironment.
In general, the darker the paint, the sooner it starts to oxidize. Some paints are far more resistant to oxidation than others.
If you are going to roll/tip, Interlux's Perfection is supposed to be more forgiving. Not quite as glossy as Awlgrip. You should also plan 2 coats of primer. As others have noted, white, and only white.
San Antonio/Port Aransas, TX
All of you have given me great advise and I love it all. I know that there are lots of levels of perfection out there. I have a 1985 boat that I want to look good and be proud of. I know that if I were to spend countless hours working on the boat sanding and spraying and with the auto body experince that I have I could make it truely spectacular. But in realaity I just want it to look respectable with the minimam amout of work and investment. I want to sail the thing and have a great time, I am not one that enjoys pride of ownership over ever acually touching it and using it. I want to use the boat, and if I scrach it or rub something I don't want to have a heartatack. I hope you understand, I just want to be practical.