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Old 07-01-2012, 09:49   #16
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

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Damn Charlie, I'd give a lot to have your job. I'm jealous as hell.
Don't be so quick to jump in. I just spent 10K of my money to keep the core crew in their homes and alive along with the shop open over the last three months when we had no work. It ain't all fun and games...

Should be though...
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:05   #17
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

Capsize a 50' boat with a deep keel?

In the right (wrong?) conditions when racing in the southern ocean it happens.
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Old 07-01-2012, 13:10   #18
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How the hell do ya capsize a boat with a 12' beam and a 12' draft?
It helps to have the spinnaker up.
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Yes, the spinnaker would help as well. Hal Roth's keel as I recall was the standard deep keel of around 8' or so. Interestingly it is now for sale - a lot of boat for $149,000.
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Old 28-02-2012, 08:40   #20
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

It's been a while so I figured it was time for an update. The peeling went good as did the epoxy work, if long. It takes a lot to fair that stuff right.



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That's just to show the progression. Of course, there was some deam to deal with.



After I got the core cleaned out.



There are more but a couple Id like to show are the preliminary cardboard mockup of a sugar scoop he is thinking about. Trust me, this is a very crude mockup. The real thing would be tooled up and laid up off the boat and then glassed in.



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No, it won't have creases, wrinkles and such....
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

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No, it won't have creases, wrinkles and such....
Yeah, but creases and wrinkles are fast.....keeps the laminar flow attached
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Old 28-02-2012, 09:00   #22
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Speed wrinkles work in the sail fabric but I doubt he'd want them in his hull....
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...



Oh Boy! Someplace for the exhaust fumes to gather. But I'm sure you have an answer for that.



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Yep, that little stainless outlet is for the Espar diesel heater. The rest get re-routed out the bottom of the scoop but above the waterline.
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

Extensions are fun! But why would you mold it off the boat instead of building the mold in place? Much quicker and easier to fair that way, it's just how extensions are done IMHO. Also I've never seen a bottom peeled like that, why isn't it stepped? Is this your first peel? Did you watch the instructional video that came with the peeler? Because you can't peel fair like that, at least not with any peeler I've ever seen, and I'm pretty sure I've used every model out there. Just trying to help you achieve a better peel next time, I have peeled hundreds of hulls. Or find out if you are using a tool or technique I have never seen.
Peeling must be stepped because the offset shoulder must AT ALL TIMES be on gelcoat, if it hits an already planed surface it will gouge by the depth of the offset. Therefore stepping is required to give you a place to start the next cut without gouging. It's peeling 101.
Watch the video and note how the operator "steps" his cuts. This is how it's done.



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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

Are you listening Charlie?
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

D'ya know, was that boat ever called "Rapscallion II"?
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Minaret, we used a Marine Shaver Pro. None of the gouging associated with a Gelplane. None of the issues you point out.
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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

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Minaret, we used a Marine Shaver Pro. None of the gouging associated with a Gelplane. None of the issues you point out.

Ah, I see. I never really liked that one, it's more of a mini turboshear than a proper peeler. Much too small a cutting head, a peeler with a 3" head is much faster. The MSP also has guides, they are just placed in the opposite alignment. Have you ever used a turboshear? It's the same sort of critter, but without the plane guide and much larger. Fits on a 7" grinder. Awesome for large grinds. We call it "0 grit", lol!
Do you know Sean Mills? He peels bottoms (that's all he does) for boatyards up your way. He's really fast (2 days or less) and very reasonably priced. Many boatyards subcontract him to peel for them. Just wondered if you know him. His rate often comes in less than most yards pay in wages for the job.


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Re: Old Warhorse in the Shop for a Makeover...

It has a 3" cutting path. Here's a vid: I talked to a guy about blasting the boat but it worked out to be about the same so we did the work so the boys would have paychecks. I like the fine setting increments. You can take as much or as little as ya like.
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