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Old 31-10-2008, 13:52   #316
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I don't think it has anything to do with a perfectly outfitted boat. That's just a red herring.

For most folks, life intervenes when you hit your mid 20's. You have a career, children, other obligations, a circle of friends, some of whom do not sail, and other non-sailing interests (in my case, skiing and hiking). When you hit your 40's and 50's You have kids in college and aging parents who need you. I thought about just going in my early 20's and I'm glad I didn't. I would have missed too many other life experiences.
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Life is full of choices. Those you made and those you didn't. Those you regret and those you don't.

IME age just adds to your capacity to make yer bad choices way more complicated.

One of the things that keeps me going is that I fully expect when hitting 60+ to be (still?!) making some real humdingers of bad choices involving good beer and bad women. I certainly hope so
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Old 31-10-2008, 14:54   #318
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Why would anyone in there RIGHT MIND choose to sail alone or even in company across oceans when they can sail in protected or coastal waters and anchor or tie up for the night? I have been in both places and the choice is easy for me. I am no coward and if I had to or had a good reason I could do it,but why? What does an intelligent self assured person have to prove by subjecting themselves to discomfort, danger and loneliness? I realize this is like trying to explain the benefits of vegetarian diet to a den of lions, but I feel some one should point out this obvious truth. Ed.
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An excellent article by Evans Starzinger...

There is an excellent article on this topic "Emergency Steering Solutions by Evans Starzinger" available online.
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Old 31-10-2008, 19:41   #320
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And Ronnie? you're younger than some of my kids. I respect your accomplishments to date, and you're in the area I served in when I was in the mil. Keep your wallet in your front pocket or attached to your belt, and don't drink after sundown. Being ashore and alone there is worse than being at sea, so find people you can truly trust.
Are you sure that shouldn't be, "Don't drink after sunrise"? -

Finding the right people is good advice and oh, so hard to do.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:15   #321
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Good luck, keep your chin up and I hope to see greater things for you. Youre doing something that many of us wished we had taken the chance to do before we got so damn smart.
"Wishing" and "taking the chance" are mutually exclusive. You can dream of doing certain things because you are unable to pursue that dream at that time, or you can take the chance on a venture because you have the means to do so.

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Old 01-11-2008, 03:24   #322
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Wink Ronnie Can you Hear Me?

Ronnie, I have also given you a hard time and I wish to apologize.

Please have a laugh at my expense….
(With apologies to the Who…… just substitute your name)

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Old 01-11-2008, 05:53   #323
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Ah, the cycle is complete once again.

We start out with recriminations, move on to sound advice (which is frequently then mistaken for recrimination) and then we begin blubbering that we were too harsh all along.

Encouraging the dream is almost always a good thing, as long as it is accompanied by some common sense. Let's not forget that there's been a lot of common sense seamanship that HAS been dispensed here over the years ... and that many have benefitted from following it. Some have come to ruin for ignoring it.

In short, none of us need apologize for inserting a dose of reality into ill-laid plans. If it were a lot of other endeavors, it wouldn't make so much difference, but offshore ill-laid plans can and often will lead to the end of the dreamer.

My two cents, as they say.
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Why would anyone in there RIGHT MIND choose to sail alone or even in company across oceans when they can sail in protected or coastal waters and anchor or tie up for the night? I have been in both places and the choice is easy for me. I am no coward and if I had to or had a good reason I could do it,but why? What does an intelligent self assured person have to prove by subjecting themselves to discomfort, danger and loneliness? I realize this is like trying to explain the benefits of vegetarian diet to a den of lions, but I feel some one should point out this obvious truth. Ed.
There are as many reasons as there are single-handed sailors. I went, because my wife broke our agreement. My plan was to go before I met her. When she changed her mind I left anyway.

Now it is for the satisfaction. There are no disagreement with the crew going in this fashion also.
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Although it may be hugely salubrious, there’s no “glory” in gunkholeing your way through life.
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Why would anyone in there RIGHT MIND choose to sail alone or even in company across oceans when they can sail in protected or coastal waters and anchor or tie up for the night? I have been in both places and the choice is easy for me. I am no coward and if I had to or had a good reason I could do it,but why? What does an intelligent self assured person have to prove by subjecting themselves to discomfort, danger and loneliness? I realize this is like trying to explain the benefits of vegetarian diet to a den of lions, but I feel some one should point out this obvious truth. Ed.

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I think the thrust of your questions is: why cross oceans? For the same reason we go boating at all, rather than staying comfortably at home. Some wish for different degrees or types of challenges, but the couch potato understands none of us who would exchange comfort, security, and entertainment for any passing experience of adventure or natural beauty.
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Old 04-11-2008, 14:23   #328
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BA,

As I said we all go for different reasons.......good one!

Amgine,

As I sailed under the Golden Gate alone sailing for Mexico. I had second thoughts, and fears going out the gate. As I looked back over my shoulder my biggest fear was never leaving! All of us have different comfort levels, and thank goodness, or all the anchorages would be full....hahahahahaha
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Although it may be hugely salubrious, there’s no “glory” in gunkholeing your way through life.

Says you!!!

Glory seeking?? Now I understand!!! I never thought of that!!!!!!!

Is that why all these sailors sail away to constantly seek wifi sites so they can broadcast back their experinece?? seeking some kind of glory??

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"....

You gave me my weekly laugh...thanks
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Says you!!!

Glory seeking?? Now I understand!!! I never thought of that!!!!!!!

Is that why all these sailors sail away to constantly seek wifi sites so they can broadcast back their experinece?? seeking some kind of glory??

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"....

You gave me my weekly laugh...thanks
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