Originally Posted by Blue Stocking
Come on Guys!!!!
One very respected Naval Architect who is a regular contributor to this forum has probably 100's of successful designs. A number of you are probably sailing his boats.
You can't paint
them all with the same brush.
No, but you should not consider them as infallible and allow them to control the project
As I said before, Naval Architects and Designers are “idea” people.
Where they get the client into trouble is when they feel they can also engineer
and provide the design solutions during the production phase. Problem is… their rather small design staff has only theoretical rather than actual build experience and they make production mistakes
at the clients or boat builder’s expense. (Finger pointing times
The smart Designers realize this and confine themselves to conceptual drawings to illustrate their ideas and then they let the Builder
work out the construction drawings based on their proven build methods and “as built” engineering experience.
Where screw-ups happen is when the Designer
contractually has approval and his ego and industry politics get in the way of common sense engineering, so the Builder
follows really stupid designer
solutions by a design company that has no assets to back-up and insure their work. The client ultimately suffers.
On projects I do, I spend a lot of money
and time up front, (before putting contract
out to tender) doing a design and independent feasibility study so as to assure both the client and competing yards…. that we have actually done our homework, with the specific detail needed to allow the yards to give me a detailed costing .
I then negotiate a fixed price
based on a “Design and Build Agreement” with the shipyard, where they are contractually bound to view all the drawing work and detail specifications we have given to them as “Contract Guidance drawings”.
They are still responsible to satisfy themselves that the engineering solutions will work and know that if there are any failures or cost over-runs…the buck stops with the Yard
In the end, it saves a lot of money on dramatically reduced “change orders” and assures a clear line of responsibility
The client gets exactly what he wants at the price
agreed to and the actual build phase is somewhat anticlimactic, which helps me to maintain a positive relationship with the Builders and clients.