Originally Posted by xslim
I know this is an old thread, but no reason in creating new one.
So I'm remodeling my 1985 39ft aluminum
sailboat now and one of the areas that I want to change is the nav table.
I currently have (starboard side) a massive chart table, a hanging locker and cabin
aft of it. I'm willing to cut the table, make a seat smaller, remove the locker and make the whole aft area as a head
Mostly I use iPad
(have a few backups) so no reason for me for massive table that just occupies space.
Also thinking on putting in a Refleks stove on the side of Nav table.
Her's some questions:
- what would you recommend as a minimum good table size for small charts
or using a laptop
- would be moving a battery box
from under the table to under the seat be a good idea?
- do you think drip diesel
stove on the side of the table will be fine?
Including few pictures.
For whatever little it may be worth (since you obviously work differently from me), I wouldn't touch that beautiful nav table! The nav station is the nerve center of the boat, and the most important belowdecks space in my opinion. What you have is a good layout -- bookshelf to hand, enough desk space to do chartwork or a million other things one does at the nav station (splicing, passage
planning, etc. etc. etc. etc.), instruments, switchgear, and comms gear
The only thing I would watch out for is what Hudson
pointed out -- chart plotter/radar is much more comfortable to use if you can reach it without straining your arms. In my opinion, it's too high in your photo
Chart plotters are now so cheap
that there is no reason in the world not to have one both at the nav station and also at the helm
(where of course you really need it).
Here is my instrument setup, which some will consider overkill, but just for a data point:
B&G 8" non-touch Zeus plotter/radar/MFD
Maretron DSM-250 MFD
B&G Triton instrument display
with Pactor modem
21" QHD high res monitor
, permanently mounted
B&G 8" Zeus Touch at the helm
1x B&G Triton at the helm
4x B&G Tritons at the scuttle
B&G pilot keypad at the helm
FLS at the helm
Stalk mount for waterproof Android tablet for GoFree and OpenCPN
, under the sprayhood
Second station for the M604 VHF
("Command Mic") at the helm
Where I sail, very detailed passage
planning is mandatory (because of tides, heavy traffic, weather
, complex waters, etc.). I do this at the nav station, less and less with paper charts
and more and more with OpenCPN on the high res monitor
. I make my passage plans in a notebook, and I create routes in OpenCPN and transfer them to the main nav system by thumb drive. Even if you're not doing chartwork on paper charts, it's great to have a place to spread out almanacs and pilot books
and take notes, download gribs and weather
reports, referring to them on the monitor, etc.
I sail in the world's busiest seaways (English Channel, North Sea, German Bight) and collision
avoidance is a big job. If I have crew, I prefer to do it from the nav station while crew sails
the boat and keeps visual watch. So I can concentrate entirely on the radar
displays, keep notes, do communications
as required. I can even steer the boat from the nav table as the Zeus MFD's both also control the pilot.
Having both OpenCPN running and also the Zeus, it's possible when needed to display only radar
on the Zeus, with the chart displayed on the high res monitor. OpenCPN has a terrific AIS
display (WORLDS better than the Zeus), so it's great to be able to see both that and radar separately. When there are enough people on board, it's also good to double the watch from down there on dark nights, so that you can really concentrate on the radar display while someone else is keeping the visual watch.
In the cockpit
, the problem is that for close pilotage you really need the chart plotter right at the helm, but 99% of the time you are not actually standing behind the helm where you can see the plotter. A third plotter under the sprayhood really seemed like overkill, even to me (
), so I don't have one there, but it's possible to control the helm MFD via GoFree using a waterproof Android tablet, and that actually works really well when keeping watch from under there, perhaps hiding out from a cold rain.
For whatever it's worth, that's how I do it, and if I had your boat, I wouldn't touch that nav table! I'd replace the instruments and comm gear
and rearrange them a bit so that they fall more easily to hand, and leave it at that.