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Old 14-01-2013, 14:17   #76
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so.... I guess the Nauticat wasnt cored in the layup under the deck? I was lucky on my Hans Christian, it was a regular cored deck and plenty stiff. We didnt find any obvious wet core, but avoided looking TOO hard!
Wow man.... what a big job.... Seems like often a total restoration like that will not return your money........ are you worried about that?



No. Anyone who takes on a refit expecting to get their money back is nuts.
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Old 14-01-2013, 14:19   #77
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I noticed the old hot water heater sitting out in one of the pics. What you going to replace it with? I took two out of nivana and I'm going back with an on demand propane heater. I wish there was an on demand diesel water heater...that would even be better I think.
I will be replacing that with a similar unit, but square instead of round to fit in a different place. I do have a hydronic system with an Everhot (diesel on demand hot water).
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Everhot diesel on demand hot water, I'll be googling that. So why 2 heaters? one for when your plugged up?
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Basically, yes. It's a solid glass deck, no core.
You mentioned that in a former thread and I thought you were klazzy! I believe you even suggested my decks were the same on my older HR. I dismissed it until I mounted a new stern rail and drilled 1/2" of solid F/G. No worry about core this time. I had delam in the decks of my Tartan Blackwatch 37. What a hassle that was!
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I noticed the old hot water heater sitting out in one of the pics. What you going to replace it with? I took two out of nivana and I'm going back with an on demand propane heater. I wish there was an on demand diesel water heater...that would even be better I think.
I took a normally used outdoor propane unit and built a collector for the top of it. The unit costs $99 and fits almost anywhere. It just so happens, where I mounted it was where the ridiculously small wood burning stove was, allowing me to use the thru-cabin chimney. See picture below.
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No. Anyone who takes on a refit expecting to get their money back is nuts.
Amen.
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No. Anyone who takes on a refit expecting to get their money back is nuts.
Amen #2.
Just be sure you have the right boat for your needs, then do it. Over the next 10-15 years you will then just enjoy your boating, and not have a R&M schedule ahead of you. And over that timeframe, on a discounted cost analysis you might even be ahead. Well, that's what I'm hoping for....
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Old 14-01-2013, 20:44   #81
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Everhot diesel on demand hot water, I'll be googling that. So why 2 heaters? one for when your plugged up?
Yes. The AC system also has a heat exchanger with the engine. Hot water for free when motoring-very hot!
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You mentioned that in a former thread and I thought you were klazzy! I believe you even suggested my decks were the same on my older HR. I dismissed it until I mounted a new stern rail and drilled 1/2" of solid F/G. No worry about core this time. I had delam in the decks of my Tartan Blackwatch 37. What a hassle that was!

I took a normally used outdoor propane unit and built a collector for the top of it. The unit costs $99 and fits almost anywhere. It just so happens, where I mounted it was where the ridiculously small wood burning stove was, allowing me to use the thru-cabin chimney. See picture below.

Amen.


I may have had some idea what I was talking about there, but that doesnt mean I'm not "klazzy"! I think this thread is ample proof of that...
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Old rudder shaft coupling vs. new coupling. Sand blasted the old one to reveal the true extent of corrosion and pitting.
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No. Anyone who takes on a refit expecting to get their money back is nuts.
Yeah, been there done that too many times. However, on one boat in Seattle..... it was a huge refit job...... I actually made 60K, even though much of the work was done by a yard! (thanks to my surveyor and my willingness to walk away/ negotiate hard) The boat's for sale now 14 years later and still looks great. I'd post pics but someone I know is in negotiation on it.....still a beauty.
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:51   #85
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Yeah, been there done that too many times. However, on one boat in Seattle..... it was a huge refit job...... I actually made 60K, even though much of the work was done by a yard! (thanks to my surveyor and my willingness to walk away/ negotiate hard) The boat's for sale now 14 years later and still looks great. I'd post pics but someone I know is in negotiation on it.....still a beauty.

Which yard?
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Yachtfish Marine. Lake union.
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Yachtfish Marine. Lake union.

Really? Steve helped you make money? Those guys are usually way overpriced. I'm surprised.
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I think if you read the thread from the beginning he works there
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Cheechako, thinking of Yadvisk people of that era you may know, though that's a little after my time around there. You know Paul Ziegler, Jay Craig, Richard Marsh, or Tony Ruich? Steve is a character, I don't generally recommend that yard.
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Cheechako, thinking of Yadvisk people of that era you may know, though that's a little after my time around there. You know Paul Ziegler, Jay Craig, Richard Marsh, or Tony Ruich? Steve is a character, I don't generally recommend that yard.
Sent you a PM. Might have been Paul that worked on my boat...? cant remember. I remember when Steve bought a 65 ft new motoryacht that had been dropped by the crane coming off the container ship. Keel had a crack in it, but generally the boat looked good. Steve cut the aft ~6 ft completely off and extended it about ~8 ft with a hot tub added! I wonder if that got rid of the salvage history? Now a 73 ft boat!
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