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Old 30-04-2013, 19:07   #676
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Yes, can be very simple. I only use expensive G10 where it's structural qualities are actually needed. What are your backing plates for? Just wanted to clarify. For a big boat windlass or other heavy gear, definitely 1/2" or more, sometimes a lot more. A big 3/8" plate and thru bolts with fender washers is pretty beefy though. Have you considered methacrylate for bonding plates?
The backing plates are for stanchions, bow chocks and stern cleats. As you said, 3/8 may do for those. I was thinking of using aluminum but changed my mind since I saw your post.
About methacrylate - yes - I am educating myself on this stuff and I found the product sold by Permatex (5 minute Plastic Weld), which according the MSDS is methacrylate - I'll use it for many things - instead of epoxy.

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Hollee cribs, what is in the big tent at the back? A Cruise ship? The roof - canvas!!??
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Old 30-04-2013, 20:22   #677
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The backing plates are for stanchions, bow chocks and stern cleats. As you said, 3/8 may do for those. I was thinking of using aluminum but changed my mind since I saw your post.
About methacrylate - yes - I am educating myself on this stuff and I found the product sold by Permatex (5 minute Plastic Weld), which according the MSDS is methacrylate - I'll use it for many things - instead of epoxy.



Hollee cribs, what is in the big tent at the back? A Cruise ship? The roof - canvas!!??

Yeah, 3/8" should be perfect for that. I sub it for 1/4" alu plate. Probably the same or better strength but won't corrode. Permatex is good and cheap but I always notice quality is not very consistent, totally different results from different tubes. Fine for many things, but go to Plexus for anything critical. It's expensive and worth it. G5 is also an excellent option for quick bonding, and cheap considering how much you get. I use it a lot too.


Lol, the big tent! We bought that from LeClercq Marine Construction a little more than a decade ago, but we had to jack it up and make it ten feet taller to fit our 55 ton Travelift into it. It was a PITA to build. That's where we do most of our painting and many refits on large boats. It's a $100 a day plus lay days. So most clients are paying $200 a day or so just to be there, then about $700 a day per worker, of which there are usually 3-4. So 3k a day is not impossible. You see why it takes 20k or more for a pro paint job. The Hatteras I pictured earlier is presently in there. Lots of Nordhavn this week.


There's lots of pics of projects in the big shed on this old thread.


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...but go to Plexus for anything critical. It's expensive and worth it. G5 is also an excellent option for quick bonding, and cheap considering how much you get. I use it a lot too...
I can’t find the real Plexus Methaclyrate in the small quantities I need. Devcon 14320 and 14226 are more available. Weld Mount is too expensive.
I will need this to glue the glass backing plates (to be fabricated) as well as HDPE back panes for mounting bus bars, terminal strips, etc to the hull. Do you think the Devcon is good enough? Would methaclyrate bond HDPE to fiberglass?
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I canít find the real Plexus Methaclyrate in the small quantities I need. Devcon 14320 and 14226 are more available. Weld Mount is too expensive.
I will need this to glue the glass backing plates (to be fabricated) as well as HDPE back panes for mounting bus bars, terminal strips, etc to the hull. Do you think the Devcon is good enough? Would methaclyrate bond HDPE to fiberglass?


Haven't used Devcon. Nothing will bond HDPE long term.


Polyethylene Adhesives and Glue - What are your choices...
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Yes, but they're hard to find.

I have to buy one of those bloody expensive Flexicat tools (I think I've seen one on your work bench). If you had to decide would you rather prefer a short one or a longer version (1120mm)?

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It's been 16d 4h 32m since the last post in this thread. Updates please. I don't have any questions at this time except perhaps about the deck install. I'm thinking those could be answered but for my own laziness of scrolling through previous posts.

Am I correct to assume the deck is complete?
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Hey Minaret! More than a bit late here, but I may have just discovered a way for you to post multiple pics at a time off your iPad. You have probably already figured this out, but go to your "Camera Roll," click "Edit," select the pics you want to post by clicking on them (small checkmarks will appear), and then click "Share" in the upper left corner. This will provide several choices for e-mailing, posting on social media, or just copying, and all of the pics you selected should be sent together. Hope this helps, and looking forward to more refit posts & pics! (and more teaser pics of your cool dinghy, hopefully!).

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Lol! Sorry guys, just totally consumed with paint work right now. Didn't realize its been so long, time is flying by for me right now. We're trying to splash on the 1st, but if we don't make it we'll probably stay in the yard for one more month. Things are really coming together and she's looking good. Keep yer fingers crossed for me!
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We were talking flat stock. Here is one of our oldest flat stock scrap bins.
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Yeah, it's a mess. It's a busy shop. See the big piece against the wall?
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Pretty thick eh?
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Some Coosa remnants too.
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Pretty thick eh?
If that was a piece of commercially manufactured G10 for sale it would be exorbitantly costly!
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This stuff is so easy to make, I don't know why anyone pays for G10.
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Sure would. That's 1 1/4".
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