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Old 04-04-2013, 20:07   #1
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Name that Hatch

Looking for a replacement hatch cover (frame and glass) to match this old one. No visible brand marking. Circa 1968, anyone recognize the manufacturer or happen to have a replacement laying around? Please do not ask the dimensions, that would force me to admit I was too stupid to check when I took the photos.
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Re: Name that Hatch

Sanibel, this looks very very similar to an Atkins and Hoyle. All the features (reversible, the stainless pin with the spring, aluminum arm, etc.) are identical.
However, I am not sure if they were around in '68 - but then again - how do you know if it is 68?
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Sanibel, this looks very very similar to an Atkins and Hoyle. All the features (reversible, the stainless pin with the spring, aluminum arm, etc.) are identical.
agree
Look just like mine except for the handles.
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Sanibel, this looks very very similar to an Atkins and Hoyle. All the features (reversible, the stainless pin with the spring, aluminum arm, etc.) are identical.
Agree. Look just like mine. Including handles.

For me and my boat, I'd be happy finding a source for the gaskets.
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...For me and my boat, I'd be happy finding a source for the gaskets.
Did you try McMaster Carr? They have all kinds, measure yours and check their site.
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Look just like mine except for the handles.
By handles you mean the dogs? They are exactly like mine (previous boat). They even wear off after a while and eventually does not close the lid tight enough.
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Atkins and Hoyle makes sense. I had never heard of them, but boat ws built in Toronto where they are located
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I concur with the A&H....they were on my Tartan. From what I learned when choosing between re-building them or replacing them was that the set screw holding the handles on often are frozen to the post and require great care in removal or you will be faced with additional expense replacing the handles. I figured by the time I replaced the lenses, re-anodized them, and maybe bunged up the handles, it wasn't too much of a stretch to just buy brand new ones out of stainless (which gave me a new-boat look). I like my new ones although the A&H hatches are very robust.

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Re: Name that Hatch

I tried a large diameter "o" ring rubber from Mc Masters and Carr and the material was too stiff (would not compress when closing the hatch). I found that Bomar makes a similiar heavy duty hatch and they have replacement gaskets that worked well with my old A-H hatches.
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I concur with the A&H....they were on my Tartan. From what I learned when choosing between re-building them or replacing them was that the set screw holding the handles on often are frozen to the post and require great care in removal or you will be faced with additional expense replacing the handles. I figured by the time I replaced the lenses, re-anodized them, and maybe bunged up the handles, it wasn't too much of a stretch to just buy brand new ones out of stainless (which gave me a new-boat look). I like my new ones although the A&H hatches are very robust.
I had 3 hatches from them and the use of diff metals is was PITA. I was constantly fixing the SS pin hinges and because the dogs eventually wear off, needing to adjust (tighten) the SS screws, and these screws as you said were constantly seized. It was a lot of needless work, I wish they had put more thought into the design, but yes, they are robust.
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Did you try McMaster Carr? They have all kinds, measure yours and check their site.
Thanks for the tip!
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sanibel sailor and svmarine, what did you end up doing with the hatches?

Looks like I've got the same and they need repairing/replacing due to leaking seals and crazed perspex.

I have a S&S Deb 33, which is a European made Tartan 34C equivalent. Looks like I've got the exact same Atkins & Hoyle XR 200 Offshore Cast Hatches as in the photos of yours and others, mine with 495 mm internal.

Same problem as other posters, my latch handles have locked on, with their stainless screw "melted" inside. Good life though, the boat is 1972 and I expect the hatches are same age!

Any advice welcome on repair or decent matching size hatches.. We have no local Atkins & Hoyle supplier here in Australia, but Moonlight do and look like a good match:

Moonlight Offshore Hatches 62-series

Material: 435x435-r36
Cutout Size (mm): 490x490-r68
Overall Size (mm): 8
Acrylic Thickness: 34
Height Mounted (mm): 12
Spigot (mm): 0425121
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