Originally Posted by Hanksy
Do most posters here do the work themselves and the prices reflect parts price
plus labour? Some cost estimates are scary!
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This particular refit
is higher than it needed to be because of money
wasted in engine
costs. When we bought the boat it was not operational because of some engine
issues and it was already in a boatyard that had a mechanic
. We didn't know anything about that boatyard and in retrospect we should have had the boat trucked to our own marina where we could get it worked on by people we knew and trusted. But it was a large, well-established marina/boatyard and they offered to store the boat for free while working on the engine so we decided to let them go ahead. They charged by the hour and rather than telling us we needed a complete rebuild
they just repaired things piece meal, constantly finding "one more thing," and I think they must have worked mighty slow too because that billable hour meter was ticking like crazy. We had to even locate and pay for most of our own parts
, as every time there was a delay they always told us it was because they "couldn't find parts." They dragged their feet, the boat was there for over a year and by the time they were "done" they had charged us over $11K, plus another $2K we had spent ourselves on parts. The day we motored the boat out of their marina we couldn't get the RPMs up high enough and had only gone about 2 miles when the oil
pressure dropped. We made the decision to keep going rather than turn back into their facility because the thought of letting them gouge us any further was unthinkable.
By the time we arrived "home" (26 nm up the Chesapeake Bay) we knew the engine was going to need to come back out, and our mechanic
confirmed that this was the case. Not all the money
we spent with them was wasted. The cutlass bearing, engine mounts, prop, and shaft were good. But mostly it was a large sum of money down the drain.
This past winter we got it completely rebuilt by someone we trust for half of what that other place ripped us off for, and that included all the parts and a new fuel tank
. It also turned out the previous mechanics had done some things that caused damage, like tighting the bolts on the muffler
so tight that it cracked the mounts in all four corners, and not cleaning
the sludge out of the crankcase. All that gunk got sucked up into the oil filter
and blocked it. What a fricking mess.
To be honest, had we known in the beginning what we know now we would have just repowered with a new engine, but we started the process thinking we just needed a new timing cover and water
pump. Things just kept snowballing from there and by the second go around there just wasn't money left in the budget
for that with all the other things still needing to be done. Total engine costs all said and done will be about $20K.
We have usually done our own rigging
in the past by having the wire made up by Defender and then installing ourselves. This time we are having a rigger do it, and we are installing a new roller furling
unit. Those two items alone are about $6K of the budget
The sailcover on our main had completely disintegrated. The mainsail
had been hanging on the boom for the 6 years the boat was abandoned and it was UV rotted. The genoa
was in pretty bad shape as well. Two new sails
are a little over $4K. (On a positive note though, I make my own canvas
and I scored 15 yards of Sunbrella in my color on eBay for $170, so at least the new mainsail
covers will be a bargain.)
So with the $15K we paid for the boat, just the engine, sails
, and rig alone brought the total up to about $45K. And there was still plenty more to do.
Everything except the engine and rigging
we are doing ourselves. Well, we did have a new bow rail made. Didn't do that ourselves. Our boat had been bashed around a bit in a storm before we bought it and both bow and stern rails were pretty messed up. The stern rail was repairable but the bow rail was not. I can't remember what that cost offhand but it was a good chunk of change for the two. With foam, fabric
, and notions I think I am spending around $2K for cushions
, interor and cockpit
. That includes all the accompanying fluff, like curtains, throw pillows, even a couple of beanbags for the cockpit
As I think I said in my first post, the total to get it complete, from the standpoint of functionality, safety
, seaworthiness and also living aboard
comfort will actually only be around $68K. And that is not only the cost of actual repairs
and refurbishment of the boat but also includes outfitting with gear
, such as the dinghy
, and even our fishing
rods and reels. The $80K figure is with other items that are on a wish list of things that would be nice to have someday but are not necessary by any means and we will get around to those when we have the time and money available, or not.
And, as an aside....since we are now 62 and 66 years old we will likely never have to replace the rigging or sails again in the time we own the boat. No matter what age boat you buy, if you own it for a length of time these are costs that are going to come up at some point. Same with engine repairs
, although hopefully you never make the mistake we did in that regard. We could have bought a 10-15 year newer boat for what the Cape Dory
will end up costing us, but I guarantee you it still would have needed additional funds for repairs and upgrades eventually, if not immediately.
Plus, this boat is the one that makes our hearts go pitty-pat. We are happy with our choice.