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15-06-2017, 10:19
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#31
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
Boat: Casacde 36
Posts: 596
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
I don't plan to have it "applied" in Washington State".
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15-06-2017, 10:21
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#32
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 5,428
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by 01kiwijohn
I don't plan to have it "applied" in Washington State".
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Then why stock up? Copper paints aren't banned anywhere else.
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15-06-2017, 12:45
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Live-aboard Cruiser
Boat: Lagoon 450
Posts: 628
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Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
We applied Micro66 a few years back with some additives. It was fine but after 10 months I was back cleaning off weed and then barnacles. Our pattern for cruising takes us on a lot of passaging so we werent just at rest at anchorages. I wont use it again as IMO its not worth the extra cost and for that matter any better than the rest. We are now using SeaHawk Island44 with a tin booster - no better than M66. The promises made around antifoul paints for yachts is one of the biggest scams in this industry.
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SV Emerald Sea
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16-06-2017, 19:38
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Tonga
Boat: Tayana 48 DS
Posts: 40
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
I'm with Emerald Sea...
Our boat has always had Micron 66 and this year we put on two new coats before we began our voyaging. We went up to Alaska then down the west coast to Mexico, SOC, and Mainland Mx, about 5000 miles this year. Everything seemed ok until we hit the tropics and since then barnacle growth has been troublesome to say the least. We have to get scraped every three-four weeks now, although that seems pretty common with other cruisers in the Marinas here in Mexico. I am watching this thread with interest as we are hauling this fall and I am scratching my head what to use.
Right now, I'd have to say "not worth the extra $$$."
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16-06-2017, 21:15
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#35
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Writing Full-Time Since 2014
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 9,569
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
I used 66 once mid-Chesapeake Bay. Yes, it outperformed everything else (several by Interlux and Petite) I have tried by 20% endurance. I'm going back to 66 next time.
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19-06-2017, 04:44
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Western Caribbean
Boat: 38/41 Fountains pajot
Posts: 3,060
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by lockie
I'd be interested to hear the experiences of any who have used Micron 66. It costs over 50% more than lots of other AF's, but does it deliver the extra time between slips for a cruising yacht?
Cheers, Graeme
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We applied Micron 66 in key west in December 2016. So far I am impresed. We have been in the bahamas since and have zero growth. Other expensive paints (Seahawks best biocop, tin free, etc, ) we have tried had growth in 2 or 3 months that needed scrubbing or flicking off. We had hard growth in 2 months at the waterline and serious adhesion issues that seahawk didn't want to deal with but finally did. And heavy growth in a year or terrible adhesion issues. This paint was the easiest I've ever applied it goes on smooth and looks great. It is very soft and ablates very easily. Not sure we will get 2 years out of 2 coats but so far looking good. 6 full months later.
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24-08-2018, 07:27
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 2
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by hsi88
Can't speak for Micron 66, but a favorite in the Chesapeake is Trinidad SR. I think that is what the previous owner of my Catalina 27 put on the boat and its been in the water now for over 5 years. Just a little growth at the water line which is easy to scrape off. Painting my Catalina 30 with it as well and I get Trinidad Pro (basically the same thing) for $100 less than M66.
Of note, most of my fellow boaters own dock queens, including myself. We are lucky to get out once or twice a month. So ablatives don't work very well for us. If you use your boat every weekend or more, I suppose M66 might work better for you and be worth the extra money.
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Micron 66 has technology in it that lets it keep working while the boat is not in motion. it has a continuous foul release, the barnacles just can't stick. have seen great success with it as well as the Micron 99 which is only available in some areas
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24-08-2018, 07:46
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Western Caribbean
Boat: 38/41 Fountains pajot
Posts: 3,060
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by joly
Micron 66 has technology in it that lets it keep working while the boat is not in motion. it has a continuous foul release, the barnacles just can't stick. have seen great success with it as well as the Micron 99 which is only available in some areas
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We had micron 66 curl and fall off our hulls after 24 hours on the hard, it was 6 months old. Interlux admitted they had had some problems with it and made good on it. Otherwise it worked great while the boat was in the water 6 months.
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24-08-2018, 08:17
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#39
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 5,428
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by joly
Micron 66 has technology in it that lets it keep working while the boat is not in motion.
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It is a misconception that ablatives do not provide anti fouling when not in motion. They do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by joly
it has a continuous foul release, the barnacles just can't stick.
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"Foul release' is a term describing an anti fouling technology that Micron 66 does not posses.
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24-08-2018, 09:16
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#40
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Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 2
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by fstbttms
It is a misconception that ablatives do not provide anti fouling when not in motion. They do.
"Foul release' is a term describing an anti fouling technology that Micron 66 does not posses.
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This is true, foul release was the wrong term to use. international paints have what they call controlled polishing that works when the boat is still stationary. I was under the impression that not all antifoulings work while stationary. It involves special technology that international do not own themselves. they have to pay royalties on it. hence one of the reasons it is so expensive
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24-08-2018, 09:23
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#41
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 5,428
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by joly
I was under the impression that not all antifoulings work while stationary.
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Ablatives (like hard paints) leach biocide 24/7/365.
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24-08-2018, 09:30
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#42
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Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 18,423
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
Is Micron 66 still available to you? that and Micron 77 has disappeared from the market since June this side of the pond. A real shame because 77 has proven very effective this year despite some really warm waters this year.
I think its an EU thing to makes sure we don't poison the little critters
Pete
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24-08-2018, 09:32
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#43
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 5,428
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
We use it and love it here in Northern California.
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24-08-2018, 10:07
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#44
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 365
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
still a savings over the $230/gal "multi-season" paint that I applied 14 months ago on my boat was 100% covered in growth yesterday
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well, what did you expect?
you got more than 4 seasons out of it
I'd go with the 'multi-year' paint next time
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24-08-2018, 13:25
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#45
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,364
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Re: Micron 66 - worth the extra $$$?
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Originally Posted by Pete17C
well, what did you expect?
you got more than 4 seasons out of it
I'd go with the 'multi-year' paint next time
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have no idea what you point is, it has been 2 seasons and it was multi-season "year" paint
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