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Old 24-10-2007, 13:12   #1
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Latches for hatches and floorboards

My new boat doesn't have any latches on any of the floorboards on the cabin sole nor the hatches that lead to storage areas on the deck. If we take a knockdown, I would expect these to open and allow water to enter(bad) and the floorboards to come flying around the cabin(bad).
Any suggestions as to where I might get latches or catches to resolve this problem and suggestions on installation?
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Old 24-10-2007, 13:42   #2
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If the hatches have ‘finger holes”, you could screw a couple of small (1/2”W x 1.5” L x 3/16” Thick) aluminum restraining plates to the underside of the hatch.
The plates would extend beyond the hatch cover, and secure to the fixed sole/deck.
The plate nearest the finger hole would be fastened “snugly”, but loose enough to move, whilst the other end would be fixed “tight”.
There are "commercial" solutions, but I'm getting ready to fly out to a reserve, and can't search them, right now.
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Ahoy;

Not sure how traditional your Liberty is such that your aesthetic leans toward brass/bronze vs. stainless, but I've been looking at these for sole plates at Classic Marine. They're not cheap, but they appear well-built and shouldn't be toe-stubbers. They've got a number of nice hatch latches, hinges and ornamental hardware too:
Never Mind the Bowlocks - It's Classic Marine

While on the subject of hardware, I've also been looking for some nice heavy duty bronze icebox latches and hinges, if anybody has a link for me.

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Hi there, Southco are the premier latch company in this area. A few years ago they bought out Mobella in Sweden who do latching for all the big European builders. Check out Southco - Latches, Hinges, Fasteners, Engineered Access Hardware for a local agent as they may have minimum order quantities buying direct. A draw latch would solve the locker problems, but look at their lockable latches too for security. The website contains an interactive catalog with tolerances and all specs, and you can download CAD if needed. Good luck!!
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Sorry Jeff, your post got in before me . . Southco don't do brass I don't think . . try Sagatsume or Tochigaya - both Asia based, but might help . . .
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Thanks, Mick, though Google couldn't find Sagatsume, and Tochigaya seems to focus on stainless and aluminum too. (though they may have some items of interest to mestrazat: TOCHIGIYA CO.,LTD. | Product Directory) Getting hard to find good repro bronze stuff any more. I keep hoping to wander into a salvage store and find the goodies I need, but so far no joy.
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I just installed three of these aboard my Pearson Triton: eBay Motors: SOLID BRONZE HATCH PULL WITH LATCHING DOG 51027B (item 4645818788 end time Nov-22-07 18:00:06 PST)

I've purchased several items from this seller and, although shipping is slow (from Canada), I've always been happy with the merchandise. This is a good price for these pieces--I believe they're made by ABI. Very solid and good-looking as well.

Installation is somewhat involved and requires routing out where the piece sits on the floorboard. Also, you have to craft a piece for the other end of the floorboard that keeps that end down--a bracket out of thin SS or bronze with two, 90 degree bends.

Anyway, this would be one way to do it.
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Geoff, it's www.sugatsune.com , sorry, got the spelling wrong - brass don't seem to be there either though - I reckon one of the big UK chandleries would do lots of it, i'll try again from this end and ask around . .
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I picked up 5 of these Perko's off of e-bay for $15/each



All five are keyed alike and can be used unlocked. They mount easily with a 2" hole saw. The locking tab needs to line up with the underside of the adjacent deck but given the depth you might need to add blocks for the tab to lock into. I think the max thickness is 1". If you can't find them on e-bay I think most online retailers list them for about $25 each.
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My new boat doesn't have any latches on any of the floorboards on the cabin sole nor the hatches that lead to storage areas on the deck. If we take a knockdown, I would expect these to open and allow water to enter(bad) and the floorboards to come flying around the cabin(bad).
Any suggestions as to where I might get latches or catches to resolve this problem and suggestions on installation?
To keep the floor boards in place I ran 2" flat head coarse thread screws through the floor boards into the keel grid and screwed the floor boards into place, two screws for the small boards and three for the large ones. I did have to prepare the glass-over-foam grid by over-drilling the holes and squirt in a resin and milled glass plug into which the screw threads - and the boards haven't gone anywhere. I use a screw driver (or cordless drill with a driver bit) to remove the screws and access the bilge. Not as convenient as a large latch, but the screws are flush with the floor, small, readily available, not to mention inexpensive and easily replaceable. I also didn't need to create a large hole into which the lock mechanism seats.

For cockpit lockers/lazarettes I like Perko's external hasp locks (they call it a "lockable hold down clamp") - again not as slick as the flush-mount locks mentioned above but hasps are readily available and simple, you supply your own Sesame padlock.

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By the way guys, I work in marketing for a European fastener distributor (not manufacturer), if anybody needs something specific researched our guys could most times point you in the right direction as to where to get it. I am NOT touting for business (never mix it with pleasure), but would be happy to send a handfull of free samples should we have a certain item in stock. (obviously not a free bag of lockable marine latches, but you get my drift) Mick
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Jay,

I'd love to see some pictures of those installed in your triton! I've been looking for a solution to the finger holes in the floor. The top of my head glides along the overhead while I'm barefoot... so no teak and holly for me!
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