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Old 27-03-2016, 18:58   #1
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Laquer instead of varnish?

Any experience using laquer & specifically "spray can" laquer instead of varnish(any "varnish") on boat brightwork-interior & exterior?

I use spray can laquer often on "home" projects-wood & metal-& it works great.
Fast dry,tough,easy-smells horrid-need good vent. or do it outdoors on nice day.

I've Googled & read,but can't seem to find convincing evidence of it's UV tolerance & general weather/ longevity on exterior wood.

We have too short a season & very changeable wx to accomplish much outdoor varnish work locally. Varnishing requires removal of items & taken indoors here.

A rubbed laquer finish on an auto used to be the epitome of quality.

Note: I have consistently misspelled lacquer throughout. Take a deep breath,& live with it!

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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

Don't believe lacquer has any UV shield so will deteriorate quickly in the sun. I know even in the darkest PNW you get sun for at least a couple days in the summer. Lacquer also is not water proof. That's why you get rings on furniture from sweating/wet glasses.
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

I used spray lacquer on some floor boards in a skiff I built. It failed much quicker than the varnish I used on other parts of the boat.
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Old 28-03-2016, 04:30   #4
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Don't believe lacquer has any UV shield so will deteriorate quickly in the sun. I know even in the darkest PNW you get sun for at least a couple days in the summer. Lacquer also is not water proof. That's why you get rings on furniture from sweating/wet glasses.
I'm in the eastern Canada & we like to go sailing on those same couple of days.
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I used spray lacquer on some floor boards in a skiff I built. It failed much quicker than the varnish I used on other parts of the boat.
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

The interior of Cabo Rico's are lacquer from the factory. Nobody knows for sure the exact schedule of application but with trial an error fixing my boat I have determined that it was shellac and then lacquer.

Held up beautifully for 27 years but its obvious that its well past time for rejuvenation - when I pull up a piece that has been in place for a long time, you can see the old unfaded color.

If I were to redo the whole boat, I probably would not use Lacquer but even though it does not seem to darken the wood because you use so little of it.
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

Found this from a link on YBW forum.
Repairing Beneteau lacquer interior.

http://sbo.sailboatowners.com/downlo...n_70155173.pdf
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

Lacquer yes
But why spray??

I was told to use that one for wooden floors, matt finish, ... I can't believe that varnish is more durable, and UV is not an issue indoor

Ventilation needed.....
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and UV is not an issue indoor
That's not true - UV inside is a huge issue.
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

I wouldn't lacquer anything on a boat. I built some kitchen cabinets and lacquered the inside. Big mistake! Damp dishes ruined the finish in a matter of days... easy to fix, but I always had to ensure there was zero water on dishes before storing them. Varnish or polyurethane is the only way to go if you don't want to be refinishing several times a season. oiled teak is OK if you don't mind oiling regularly.
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

When I lived in Panama... The carpenters would use an anti-UV additive with the lacquer that was applied to Cocobolo (dalbergia retusa) . Cocobolo in my opinion is the most beautiful wood in the world and the color of the grain is striking to gaze upon. But due to UV radiation the wood will darken in time... to prevent this hanging in color they mix anti-UV treatment into the lacquer. Cocobolo being an oily wood like teak will shed varnish or other coatings EXCEPT lacquer. The surface needs to be cleared of oil first like cleaning it with acetone or such just before application... long story short.... Lacquer is used quite a bit more in high UV locales in my experience rather than varnish or other applications. AND it is tough as nails...
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

Try "WIPE ON POLY" , by Minwax. Goes on with a rag. Easy and lasting. I used it in the interior.
No experience on outside.
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Re: Laquer instead of varnish?

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Lacquer yes
But why spray??

I was told to use that one for wooden floors, matt finish, ... I can't believe that varnish is more durable, and UV is not an issue indoor

Ventilation needed.....
Thanks. Spray because of time-you have to experience our climate & 3 mo. season.
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I wouldn't lacquer anything on a boat. I built some kitchen cabinets and lacquered the inside. Big mistake! Damp dishes ruined the finish in a matter of days... easy to fix, but I always had to ensure there was zero water on dishes before storing them. Varnish or polyurethane is the only way to go if you don't want to be refinishing several times a season. oiled teak is OK if you don't mind oiling regularly.
Lacquer is not water vapor proof-your experience makes sense Thanks
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When I lived in Panama... The carpenters would use an anti-UV additive with the lacquer that was applied to Cocobolo (dalbergia retusa) . Cocobolo in my opinion is the most beautiful wood in the world and the color of the grain is striking to gaze upon. But due to UV radiation the wood will darken in time... to prevent this hanging in color they mix anti-UV treatment into the lacquer. Cocobolo being an oily wood like teak will shed varnish or other coatings EXCEPT lacquer. The surface needs to be cleared of oil first like cleaning it with acetone or such just before application... long story short.... Lacquer is used quite a bit more in high UV locales in my experience rather than varnish or other applications. AND it is tough as nails...

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