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24-02-2012, 11:47
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: East Tennessee
Boat: 1989 50 ft Roberts
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Hull Painting
I'm sure this has been discussed many times, but here goes....
I'm planning to repaint my hull this spring when it warms up a bit. I will be sand blasting down to bare shiney steel until noon or one pm then paint until the blasted area is covered. Repeat the next day and so on until I'm done.
My question is about cleaning the steel after blasting,prior to painting, what product to prime with, the faring material , top coat? above and below the water line products? Basically how would you do it if this were your boat you planned to keep for a long time?
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24-02-2012, 12:02
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Re: Hull painting
My hull is Inorganic Zinc coated so I have never gone to sandblast. I would blow clean the hull, then 2 coats of Sigma 7416 Hi solids epoxy Aluminum primer, then two coats of their Epoxy Tar (BREA) then two coats of their TCN Tiecoat. That is the bottom we currently have on. Then we have up to 8 coats antifouling and huge anodes. Pictures on our web page in the 2006 section. Good luck!
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30-03-2012, 12:45
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Re: Hull Painting
After spending more time waiting on my air compressor to catch up than actually sand blasting, I went out and found a "real" air compressor. It needed some work. It was loaned to me if I repaired it. So I fixed it, and OMG 200CFM @ 125psi is freakin awesome. I need a bigger sand blaster now.
Just my luck, its going to rain this weekend.
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30-03-2012, 13:41
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Re: Hull Painting
Matt,have fun, its a shi**y job ! Do make sure nobody touches the bare steel before you prime it, hand sweat/grease will affect the paint bond. Bruce.
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30-03-2012, 14:26
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Re: Hull Painting
Thanks for that, I didnt know. Whats the best way to get the dust off before you paint? air hose?
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30-03-2012, 14:43
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Re: Hull Painting
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Originally Posted by Matt sachs
Thanks for that, I didnt know. Whats the best way to get the dust off before you paint? air hose?
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Rub with a dry rag while using air hose, then wip down with a rag and thinners. At least that is what i did on my Roberts when i still had it, but others may have better suggestions.
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30-03-2012, 14:51
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Re: Hull Painting
Just blow the dust off - don't touch it with anything. If you use a rag you risk leaving cloth fibres in your nice new profile.
You may find that half a day is a little long between blasting and painting, but it will depend on humidity.
What sort of grit are you using?
Regards,
Richard.
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30-03-2012, 15:12
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Re: Hull Painting
Silica free Black Diamond 60/80 grit.
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30-03-2012, 15:15
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: Hull Painting
Make sure your air is carefully separated with at least two filters before very thoroughly blowing off. Any oily moisture you may blow out of the compressor tank will really ruin your day without proper filtering.
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31-03-2012, 15:09
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Re: Hull Painting
Thanks for all the advice. I currently have moisture separator in line. Do I need another? I really really don't want to screw this up!
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31-03-2012, 16:29
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Re: Hull Painting
Ive always used acitone as a wipe down before spraying anything on a striped hull! at least thats what I did the few times I had to on my Colvin! seemed to work for me wiped it and blew it off again! and sprayed what ever I was useing at the time ! theres so many other paints out there now that I would have to talk to some boat painters about what to us nowdays things have changed alot in the last 10 yrs since I sold her !! But steel is still steel I guess!! so I would ck with some of the pros on here like Minaret hes still in the boat repair and painting bizz Im sure hes up to date !!
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03-04-2012, 14:01
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Re: Hull Painting
I put in a second air / water seperator, and son-of-gun, I'm getting a little moisture in the second seperator. Once again, thanks Minaret for the sound advice.
What are your thoughts about a faring material to apply over the primer to fill in a few of the ugly areas?
Then whats your opinion about the next steps....(hows that for an open-ended question??) Thanks again.
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03-04-2012, 14:08
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: Hull Painting
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Originally Posted by Matt sachs
I put in a second air / water seperator, and son-of-gun, I'm getting a little moisture in the second seperator. Once again, thanks Minaret for the sound advice.
What are your thoughts about a faring material to apply over the primer to fill in a few of the ugly areas?
Then whats your opinion about the next steps....(hows that for an open-ended question??) Thanks again.
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Yea I usually run 3, one one the compressor itself, one after at least 25' of line to allow for condensation, and one right before the final line. But I am often running 100'-200' of hose off a filtered manifold. All filters always have moisture, getting a really dry airstream requires daily tank draining and good separating/filtering.
What primer did you use?
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03-04-2012, 15:25
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Re: Hull Painting
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Originally Posted by minaret
Yea I usually run 3, one one the compressor itself, one after at least 25' of line to allow for condensation, and one right before the final line. But I am often running 100'-200' of hose off a filtered manifold. All filters always have moisture, getting a really dry airstream requires daily tank draining and good separating/filtering.
What primer did you use?
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PPG Amercoat 240. Thanks
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03-04-2012, 16:25
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: Hull Painting
Use Amercoat 114A epoxy filler. Heres the PDS for your primer. http://ppgamercoatus.ppgpmc.com/prod...240_PDS_AI.pdf
Many people will use WEST with 407 for just about anything, this included.
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