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Old 30-03-2013, 12:39   #16
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Q240z,
I checked out your blog and I think we've actually been in contact before. I also converted from gas to diesel and went with the Ford Lehmans. I've put well over a 1000 NM under the keel with them over the past 5 yrs and they have proven to push the old girl just fine through heavy weather, current, etc. I can push her at 6.5 kts at 1500 RPM and burn 2.8 gph doing it with the genset running. That is a comfortable cruise speed. The engines start to load at 1400 and are happiest between 1500 and 1800 rpm.


I've been buddy boating with 2 stick boat friends who in calm water kept pace motoring at 6kts until we ran into weather conditions that knocked them down to 1.5 (Island Packet)and 4 kts (Islander freeport motor sailor) respectively. I kept chugging along at 6 kts with a 100 rpm increase in throttle - 1600 rpm vs 1500.

I'm curious as to the conditions you ran into that caused you concern? For the record, I'm turning 1.91:1 velvet drives and 23x16 4 bladed wheels. According to the calculations, I should be able to put another inch of pitch in the props, but I'm happy with the performance I have.

My old girl is heavy - over 55,000 lbs. When I hauled last spring for a bottom job, my primary fuel storage tanks were empty and the yard's newly rebuilt hydraulic trailer that is rated to 50,000 lbs couldn't budge the old girl. I warned them she was heavy and they thought my weight estimate was insanely high. After they tried moving her, they agreed with my estimate. That same trailer had just moved 40+ ft Kady Krogen.

Anyway, she is a comfortable liveaboard and handles well at sea (as well as can be expected for a coastal cruiser).

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Old 30-03-2013, 13:49   #17
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Could the OP clarify the term "brown water"???
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Old 31-03-2013, 07:08   #18
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

Snore, Wikipedia is your friend: Brown-water navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

neptunesjester, yes, we have chatted before! 55,000 pounds?!?! The 46 in aluminum are listed at 32,000# from the factory, though I don't know if that's with Detroit 871s or the Ford 427s. Is that 10 tons of personal effects you've got making up the difference?

The conditions were kind of typical Chesapeake Bay short period, wind-against-tide chop...the kind that loosens teeth. Granted the boat was extremely light on that trip--so light, in fact, that the chine was out of the water at the transom. You can see a picture of it on my blog article about moving the boat to Deale, MD.

I'm curious what kind of speed you are seeing in flat water at WOT. Also, any pix you can share? Side shots showing the waterline would be very helpful.
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Old 01-04-2013, 17:26   #19
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

Hi q240z,
I have lots of photos from when I painted my hull a few years back. I'll post them on my website and let you know. I remember I took all kinds of measurements so I could get the waterline and boot stripe back on .

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Old 01-04-2013, 18:05   #20
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

For the time being here are some photos that show the waterline. On the transom, the outboard stantion bases against the hull that support the swim platform are almost completely submerged.

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Old 03-04-2013, 10:53   #21
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

Thanks, NJ. That's one fine lookin' vessel you've got there.

Any shots of it in the water? I'm especially interested in seeing the floating waterline. We're about to cut holes in the side of the hull for the exhaust...don't want to put them too low or too high.

On a related note, the latest update on my 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit blog covers transforming the tent, helm door openings and more fillets.

This thing should be in primer in a few weeks.

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Old 16-04-2013, 09:51   #22
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

My latest blog article covers completion of the tent transformation from a winter work tent that survived Hurricane Sandy to a springtime paint shed.

1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Tent Model IX Transformation Complete

I'll be posting more articles of work done over the last two weeks over the next few days.

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awesome--keep up the good work and we see ye when ye come out to play.....
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Old 17-04-2013, 07:07   #24
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

We're getting very close to priming. Check out the latest blog post on my 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Helm Door Openings, Rounds, & Fillets .
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

I always did love the look of the old Chris Crafts and was interested in the Roamers. I may pick one of those old girls up for a restoration some day.
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

They're great boats. Some folks "get" the zen, joy, sense of accomplishment or whatever you want to call it of refitting something big like this, but most don't. That's why there are so many hulks in boatyards, I suppose. People sometimes shake their heads as they go by, on their way to tourist traps around the US Capitol. The thought of going to a tourist attraction, team sporting event, NASCAR or, gawd forbid, shopping makes me shake my head. Give me a boatyard weekend any day!

My latest blog post is on priming the hardtop. 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: The Hardtop

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boatyards and isolated harbors and wonderful anchorages without anyone else---most awesome stuff.....good work you are doing, Q
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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

Thanks, zeehag!

The latest article in my blog covers work from this last weekend. 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Cabin-top, dashboard & Hardtop

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Re: Future Brown Water Cruiser: 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit

My latest blog article is from last weekend. This is a really huge step that's been a long time coming. 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Priming the Cabin Top & Dashboard

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ok Q....you can slow down now--you are giving me beautiful boat finish envy....
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