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Old 07-09-2014, 09:59   #16
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Re: Fuel hose - requirement for insurance

The answer is easy. Write your insurance company and ask what they require. Get it in writing. If your boat ever catches fire your insurance company can't weasel out of a claim over the type of fuel hose used.

I have all the fuel hoses on my boat professionally swaged with JIC fittings. This is more secure than using hose clamps. They are also a lot easier to disconnect than a barbed fitting. Companies that makeup hydraulic lines can also swage your fuel lines for you.
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Also, he insisted we bolt and torque the Edson wheel retainer nut. We have the wheel stored on an Edson rail mount to increase room in the cockpit.
Weird

I have been of the view that retainer nut should finger tight so that wheel can be removed when using the emergency tiller.
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Weird

I have been of the view that retainer nut should finger tight so that wheel can be removed when using the emergency tiller.
I agree...

I forgot about the wheel torque spec GEM ... when I focused on the gimbal requirement...
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Weird

I have been of the view that retainer nut should finger tight so that wheel can be removed when using the emergency tiller.
Mine backs off if I don't tighten it down with a wrench. But then I also have a tool drawer near the helm.
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Why WOULDN'T someone just walk into an auto store and ask for fuel line?
i never take short cuts on things like marine fuel or gas lines .. but that's just me.
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Common sense?
Cute, but not very helpful. Yeah, sure, you may have some more experience than I do. Not much to brag about.

There are a lot newbies out here trying to do the right thing ans sometimes we stumble. You get bragging rights for being experienced, but not for lording it over others on their way.
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Re: Fuel hose - requirement for insurance

OK, I've got a question for you gurus, help me out here.

I ran undersized VENT hose for my fuel tanks. Bad on me. He said I needed to make it better, but I can't recall the minimum size required. He said 5/16 or 7/16, both sound odd.

My fuel fills are about 2" high, so filling really isn't a issue. But I need to keep the hose as small as possible. It's a long hard run. VENT hose.
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i never take short cuts on things like marine fuel or gas lines .. but that's just me.
I wasn't trying to take any "short cuts". Would have used the "right" stuff first, had I known.
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...I ran undersized VENT hose for my fuel tanks....I need to keep the hose as small as possible. It's a long hard run. VENT hose.
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I wasn't trying to take any "short cuts". Would have used the "right" stuff first, had I known.
Sounds more like you poor-boy'd it to death: Cheap automotive hose. Undersized, especially on long runs (don't want to just throw $ away).

Fuel vent hose is 5/8".
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Cute, but not very helpful. Yeah, sure, you may have some more experience than I do. Not much to brag about.

There are a lot newbies out here trying to do the right thing ans sometimes we stumble. You get bragging rights for being experienced, but not for lording it over others on their way.
Yes, you're right.

There IS an answer out there on the internet, almost always.

If you don't know about the West marine advisors, both in their catalog and online, you should:

Selecting Marine Hoses | West Marine

Good luck.
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Just had an insurance survey. We've done a lot of work on the boat over the winter and installed a bunch of fuel hose to a new day tank. Surveyor sez....it's no good, gotta be A1-15/J1527 spec. Needs to be replaced.

Just a heads up for others.
Reading the whole thread on one hand the surveyor sounds nit-picky. OTOH he sounds knowledgeable and thorough.

Knowledgeable and thorough can be a PITA or there is a remote chance he'll save your boat.

This is a good lesson for those who plan to do your own work and then get the boat insured. Also maybe for those buying an amateur owner refit and planning for insurance cover...

The gymballing stove is certainly a weird one. what if you had a fixed stove with no gymballs? Or do boat stoves have to gymball?
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Re: Fuel hose - requirement for insurance

I agree he was thorough and I'm not complaining about the surveyor.

I put this out there so that others may avoid my mistake.

As to all the critical pundits, I made a mistake.

My eternal gratitude for putting me correctly in my place.
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Re: Fuel hose - requirement for insurance

"I ran undersized VENT hose for my fuel tanks. Bad on me. He said I needed to make it better, but I can't recall the minimum size required. He said 5/16 or 7/16, both sound odd."

5/8" is the most commonly used vent hose. Most of the thru-hull vent fittings are designed for 5/8" hose.

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OK, I've got a question for you gurus, help me out here.

I ran undersized VENT hose for my fuel tanks. Bad on me. He said I needed to make it better, but I can't recall the minimum size required. He said 5/16 or 7/16, both sound odd.

My fuel fills are about 2" high, so filling really isn't a issue. But I need to keep the hose as small as possible. It's a long hard run. VENT hose.
It's actually 5/8". Look at all the fuel vent fittings in the marine supply houses and you'll see they are also for 5/8" tube. And it's supposed to be A-1 also.
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Hopcar, you beat me tuit right at the moment I was pushing submit.
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