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Old 28-08-2013, 22:35   #1
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Floor Materials and Finish

Hi All,

My wooden floor inside the cabin is 'de laminating' rather quickly. I'd guess it's very old. It looks like it's been repaired multiple times before. And was orgionally 18mm ply that had been fibre-glassed. As a non slip surface it has some rubber non slip vynal type of squares glued to it with round nobs pointing up. Looked alright but not comfortable on the feet if your not wearing shoes.

I need to replace it. I'd considered plastic instead but that was too expensive to import to where I live, so I'm back to ply.

Is painting it with resin the best bet to ensure it's moister resistant?
Also, what are some ideas to put over the top of it so it looks nice and is non slip?

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Re: Floor materials and finish

I use Everdure which is a 2 pack product made especially for wood. It soaks in an provides a high degree of moisture resistance. Apply 2 coats. You can then sand the upper surface and apply nonskid paint, film etc.

Also, make sure you use marine ply "BS 1088" or "AS 2272" if you want things to last!
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I use Everdure which is a 2 pack product made especially for wood. It soaks in an provides a high degree of moisture resistance. Apply 2 coats. You can then sand the upper surface and apply nonskid paint, film etc.

Also, make sure you use marine ply "BS 1088" or "AS 2272" if you want things to last!
Thanks Muskoka,
I've used Ererdure once so far. It certainly soaks in because it is like water to start with. I was told to use ten coats though, reducing the ratio between each coat. It took ages.

Any idea what resin would be like?

I only used BS marine ply on my boat.
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Re: Floor materials and finish

better would be to use epoxy resin than polyester resin,polyester tends to discolour and delaminate after a while
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Guys, Everdure is epoxy and it's specifically designed for wood. International recommend 2-4 coats, but for an interior cabin sole 2 coats are fine.
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Before installing new plywood, be sure to seal the edges and under side with epoxy.
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Re: Floor materials and finish

Epiglass Everdure

CPES™-Wood based epoxy products to repair and resist wood rot.
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Re: Floor materials and finish

Thanks guys, evedure looks like what I'll use. I went and got some and tested it. Mixed 50/50 it's much like water. On a test piece two coats didn't seem to do a lot. On the third coat it started to take effect and was no longer soaking in.

What suggestions would u all have for painting it? Do I need to paint it?

I intend on sticking a non slip black vynal on the top side. That's what was in the original and it looked really nice all being black. Then I intend to loose fit carpet it to keep sand and dirt out of cracks and falling into the bilge of the boat.
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Re: Floor materials and finish

I just brought some more of the 5:1 generic epoxy that I use on everything and found it's main use was as a floor sealer. I've tried using it thinned but it's nowhere near as effective.

However it's what I've used on my cabin sole and it stands up to abuse really well.

What I would strongly advise is to use ply that's thicker than 1/2" (12mm). If I was to do another sole I'd use 3/4" (18mm). Don't ask...
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Q&A Epoxy Preservatives that “Soak into” the wood. CPES, Everdure | Storer Boat Plans in Wood and Plywood

everdure was not particularly effective at keeping the water out of the timber – the boats would still put on weight – this could range from a pound or two up to about 5% of the hullweight. The reason as far as I have been able to gather is that the thinners are quite long complex molecules and as they come out of the epoxy matrix they leave holes behind.

As the thinners content of Everdure is very high – about 70 percent from memory the holes are very extensive.

Water molecules are somewhat smaller than the organic molecules so have little problem going up the same holes and into the wood.

As the graph below shows – the water uptake of timber treated with “penetrating” epoxy is about 5 times that of the Modern Epoxy solution below. A massive 35% compared to less than 8% for the “high solids” type.
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Re: Floor materials and finish

Thanks Boracay, I've used 18mm simply because that's what it had in the boat. I've cut them and fitted them all today. 8 in total. I was thinking whilst I was doing it whether I had over killed the thickness, but now I've read your comment I'm glad I've used 18 mm.
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Has anyone used Wyattle Seapro TP80 instead of Everdure? It seems to be cheaper? I've noticed everything International is dearer.
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I've made this simple contraption in which to soak the boards edges. It's just 40mm PVC pipe (sewer pipe) with an end cap on one end and an elbow on the other. Then I cut a slot along one edge the width of the ply on a table saw. The elbow is so I can empty any excess easily and use that excess on the sides. Works really well. Just five minutes on each edge is what I'm giving it.

I'm hoping this will enable a deeper penetration than if I just used a paint brush.
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Neat idea!!
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Yes, very good idea for applying.
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