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Old 16-10-2018, 11:40   #1
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Fix hurricane hull to deck breach?

Hello you dear wise sailors. My boat, a 28 foot Morgan Out Island, was hit by hurricane Michael. Destroyed a portlight and 12 feet of rub rail plus separated the hull from deck (1 to 1.5 inch gap) under the destroyed rub rail, with the hull pushed in just slightly at parts of the separation. My question to you is does it make sense to try and repair in terms of will a repair be able to restore structural integrity to the seam?
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Old 16-10-2018, 12:33   #2
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Re: Fix hurricane hull to deck breach?

She'll be fine. Just glass it up and fair as needed. Nothing there is the end of that boat.
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Old 16-10-2018, 17:35   #3
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I'd grind back the damage to remove any loose material. Where the "the hull pushed in just slightly at parts" I'd use clamps (or props) to force it back to original shape. Then I would use epoxy/glass cloth to rejoin structural parts. (If possible I would also use small bolts every 6 inches or so to also join mechanically.)

Then I would finish it off with micro balloons/resin to make it look pretty again.

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Old 16-10-2018, 20:27   #4
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Not a difficult situation. Re-glass, fair and finish. Restore rub rail and port and she’ll be stronger than before it happened. If you need more encouragement, ask those that had the same damage in Maria and Irma. These repairs were minor compared to others more severe.
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Old 17-10-2018, 11:20   #5
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Re: Fix hurricane hull to deck breach?

I agree with the no big deal answers. The hull can be popped back into place then grind back and glass. If you can access the underside tag them together there. Glassing overhead is a bitch but doable.

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Old 17-10-2018, 13:16   #6
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Re: Fix hurricane hull to deck breach?

I'd take the responses so far with a grain of salt.

The damage visible around the missing port is indeed not such a big deal.

The damage from just forward of your left foot aft is more of a question. How far back does it go? Am I correct in assuming the rub rail is covering the actual hull to deck joint?

If so the rub rail has to be removed to ascertain the extent of the damage.

It is repairable, but the work to do the job correctly is likely to be a bit more involved than is evident in the picture.. In all probability adjoining sections of both the deck and hull will have to be ground out entirely and rebuilt and then pried apart, rebedded and refastened. To achieve the proper hull thickness/scarf ratio will probably require almost the entire vertical surface of the deck, and about 8 to 10 inches of hull.

Far from being the hardest job imaginable, but certainly not the easiest. Probably well worth the effort though...done properly complete structural integrity can be restored.
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I'd take the responses so far with a grain of salt.

The damage visible around the missing port is indeed not such a big deal.

The damage from just forward of your left foot aft is more of a question. How far back does it go? Am I correct in assuming the rub rail is covering the actual hull to deck joint?

If so the rub rail has to be removed to ascertain the extent of the damage.

It is repairable, but the work to do the job correctly is likely to be a bit more involved than is evident in the picture.. In all probability adjoining sections of both the deck and hull will have to be ground out entirely and rebuilt and then pried apart, rebedded and refastened. To achieve the proper hull thickness/scarf ratio will probably require almost the entire vertical surface of the deck, and about 8 to 10 inches of hull.

Far from being the hardest job imaginable, but certainly not the easiest. Probably well worth the effort though...done properly complete structural integrity can be restored.
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Old 18-10-2018, 09:28   #8
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Thank you all for your words of encouragement. Next issue will be finding a boatyard to safely get her to for the suggested work since everything around Panama City is trashed at this time. Christa
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Old 18-10-2018, 10:42   #9
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Looks easy. Some lamination, some wood support and then a new acrylic port.


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Old 18-10-2018, 13:34   #10
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Re: Fix hurricane hull to deck breach?

I had a similar situation. No port was involved just a bit (24" or so) of hull, deck and rub rail. One stanchion was involved. We used All Points Boats at Lauderdale Marine Center. The work was virtually perfect (they specialize in megayachts) and the bill was $47,000.
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I had a similar situation. No port was involved just a bit (24" or so) of hull, deck and rub rail. One stanchion was involved. We used All Points Boats at Lauderdale Marine Center. The work was virtually perfect (they specialize in megayachts) and the bill was $47,000.
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