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Old 28-10-2016, 06:22   #1
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Fasteners for Solo Through Deck Hardware Bolting

Guys, I seem to recall a few threads wherein some fasteners were described that allow one guy working alone to through bolt hardware to decks & such... without a helper belowdecks turning/holding the nut while things were tightened up. Does anyone know of such fasteners, & what they're called? Assuming that is, that such hardware exist.

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...fasteners were described that allow one guy working alone to through bolt hardware to decks & such... without a helper belowdecks turning/holding the nut while things were tightened up...
It is unnecessary to have a below-decks helper if you use a ViseGrip on the nut. To prevent the ViseGrip from turning, you can duct tape it or simply insert an awl or long screw in an adjacent hole. Plenty of ways around this problem than specialized fasteners.
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Re: Fasteners for Solo Through Deck Hardware Bolting

I'm aware of at least a half a dozen ways to get by when using standard fasteners. But none that are super speedy to use if you have say, 20 bolts to do per side. Or even a much larger number, such as for jib tracks, a toe rail, or hull to deck joint. Thus my initial query.
Obviously I will entertain other methods, however the solo fastener type option is the preferred solution of the moment.

As for example, there are numerous suggestions on how to get by when doing this type of maintenance/construction, using standard fasteners, in this thread --> Singlehander: Thrubolting? - Fix It Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums
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Another way, (and sorry I'm not answering your question) Is to use regular nuts with lockwashers and not Nyloks. Put all your bolts in, go below and put the washers and nuts fully on by hand The lock washers hold the nuts from spinning well.
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It is unnecessary to have a below-decks helper if you use a ViseGrip on the nut. To prevent the ViseGrip from turning, you can duct tape it or simply insert an awl or long screw in an adjacent hole. Plenty of ways around this problem than specialized fasteners.

Maybe I'm not reading it right, but if you're through-bolting anything that requires sealant and you're holding the nut steady and turning the bolt, you're doing it wrong. It's the bolt that should be prevented from turning so as to maintain the seal.
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Maybe I'm not reading it right, but if you're through-bolting anything that requires sealant and you're holding the nut steady and turning the bolt, you're doing it wrong. It's the bolt that should be prevented from turning so as to maintain the seal.
No sir, you're reading it correctly. Though there are a few sealants & techniques which do a passable job, but not a perfect one. And honestly, for anything serious, I'd prefer to epoxy bond the fasteners. Then pull them once it's cured, & re-bed them in something flexible. That way they're likely good for at least a decade. Two if they aren't being continually shock loaded, & are spaced closely enough that there's never the full brunt of the load on just one or two of them.

But as you know, necessity sometimes dictates doing things in a less than ideal fashion. Sadly.
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Agreed on the epoxy, MaineSail's method is the one I use. As far as making it a one person job, Roverhi's vise-grips on the bolt with some way to brace it in place is the first thing I'd try. Luckily for me, the wife is very accommodating in the hand me this or hold that role.
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Yep, these are the things......also make blind fastening possible.
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As far as making it a one person job, Roverhi's vise-grips on the bolt with some way to brace it in place is the first thing I'd try. Luckily for me, the wife is very accommodating in the hand me this or hold that role.
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Sounds like you won big in the marriage dept.

Agreed. We just brought a new to a friend, 54' Jeanneau DS, up the coast, Marina Del Rey to S.F. last week. It was a bit of a bumpy ride most of the way and she, despite a patch, didn't feel very well the entire trip. She never missed a watch and her biggest complaint was that she was disappointed in herself that she got sick, a trooper all the way.
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I'd be very cautious using these, the Fastco site gives no info on the specs of the product. Also, for anything requiring strength, they don't offer very much surface area to spread the load, A blind fastener that doesn't allow the installation of any type of backing plate doesn't seem very useful, in my opinion.
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I'd be very cautious using these, the Fastco site gives no info on the specs of the product. Also, for anything requiring strength, they don't offer very much surface area to spread the load, A blind fastener that doesn't allow the installation of any type of backing plate doesn't seem very useful, in my opinion.

I'll admit, the times these are the answer are few and far between, but there are times when they're an acceptable option, given the proper caution about their limitations.


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I'll admit, the times these are the answer are few and far between, but there are times when they're an acceptable option, given the proper caution about their limitations.

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