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Old 12-04-2011, 07:00   #1
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European Equivalent of the ABYC

I know that the ABYC requires that propane lines are one piece from the tank to the stove except for a short flexible line that attaches to a gimbaled stove. Is this the same requirement in Europe?

Also on the boats that I have seen there has always been a pressure regulator and a solenoid. Are these required by either the ABYC or the European Equivalent?

The boat that I am looking at has a break in the line where a manual shut off valve is located with its knob on the inside of the boat. The line continues in copper till it gets close to the stove where there is a shutoff and a flexible line. Is this OK with the ABYC and/or the European Equivalent?
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:11   #2
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Re: European Equivalent of the ABYC

Here is a start........
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Re: European Equivalent of the ABYC

There is no general European set of rules for yachts. There are some European standards but they aren't mandatory in all countries.

The unofficial English translation for the French Regulations for yachts is here:

The translation is slightly out of date (2007) but the paragraphs about gas systems (section 6, articles 240-2.48 & sq.) seem to be correct. They say:
Section Six – Domestic Gas

Article 240-2.48
Stowage of liquid gas stocks for domestic use.
Liquid gas for domestic use shall be stored outside or in a place that is gasproof in relation to the rest of the craft, away from any source of excess heat. This place shall be located above the waterline at a list angle of 30°. It shall be equipped with ventilation and drains of which the total section is no less than 280mm², in order to enable the gas accumulating at the bottom to escape quickly outside.
Bottles and stocks of gas shall be fixed firmly so as to prevent any unforeseen movement during sailing.
All electrical equipment in a location containing a stock of liquid gas shall be flame-resistant, pursuant to EN/ISO 8846.
No storage of mobile elements liable to damage the bottle, the pressure reducing valve and the rigid and flexible pipes, or to obstruct the conduit of the well deck may be provided for in a well deck or a store for bottles.

Article 240-2.49
Valves of circuits of liquid gas stocks for domestic use Each bottle or stock of gas shall be equipped with a valve mechanism place on the pressurised part of the distribution circuit.
Each pressure-reducing valve shall comprise a boost device in order to prevent any uncontrolled increase in pressure on the low-pressure circuit. Gas evacuation shall take place in well-ventilated gas-storage places or directly outside. This device may be a boost regulator, a boost safety valve or an automatic stopcock.
An individual stopcock, located close to all equipment used and upstream from the nozzle of a flexible pipe, shall make it possible to isolate the equipment even if it catches fire.
Where several stocks are supplying one circuit, each shall be protected by a non-return valve placed as close as possible to the insulating valves. A single device comprising all of these functions may be installed.
It is prohibited to use a gas installation normally set aside for several throughputs if one of these is physically disconnected from the circuit, unless a gasproof termination is placed in the location of the removed throughput.

Article 240-2.50
Characteristics of circuits of liquid gas for domestic use
The rigid parts of the gas distribution circuits shall be made of copper alloy or stainless steel. Pipes made of another type of steel or aluminium or another low-melting metal shall be prohibited.
The rigid parts shall be assembled either by soldering at a minimum temperature of 450°C or by threaded or compressed couplings. They shall be suitably fixed at 0.5m for copper, 1m for stainless steel and protected wherever there is a risk of shock. There shall be as few junctions as possible and they shall be of a type suitable for liquid gas. They shall ideally be soldered. Copper-soldered couplings shall meet the provisions of Standard NF/EN 29591.
A flexible part shall be placed at the departure point of the bottle and at the arrival point of each piece of equipment. Where distance allows, a single flexible pipe may be installed to connect the bottle to the equipment. Flexible pipes shall comply with Standards EN 1763-1 and EN 1763-2, class 2 or 3 for the low-pressure side and class 3 and 4 for the supply pressure side. Flexible pipes shall remain visible and accessible throughout their length, shall never cross the machinery space and shall be located out of the reach of flames. They must also not be adversely affected by combustion gas, the hot parts of equipment or overflows from hot products, nor be damaged by friction and vibration. They shall be fixed by mouthpieces installed permanently, such as dished sleeves or threaded sleeves and pinhead adaptors, pursuant to Standard EN 1763-2.
No gas distribution circuit coupling shall be located inside a machinery space.

Article 240-2.51
Apparatus of liquid gas for domestic use
Apparatus shall be equipped with a fixing device to prevent shifting, irrespective of the craft’s attitude.
Domestic gas burners shall be equipped with a device that automatically cuts out the gas supply in the event of the flame going out unexpectedly.
Apart from kitchen stoves and ovens, all domestic gas appliances shall comprise a closed furnace.
Open furnace appliances may be installed on board provided there is an external exhaust pipe, and that the furnace is physically separated by means of windows, arches, grilles or other similar devices.

Article 240-2.52
Ventilation of installations of liquid gas for domestic use
A room comprising one or more domestic gas appliance shall comprise ventilation aimed at ensuring that the atmosphere is continuously refreshed, at a rate of 6 times the volume of the room in question per hour. Gases must be evacuated via the top part of the room. When ventilation is natural, the minimum section of each upper and lower air admission shall be at least 4000 mm².
Where the functioning of the ventilation devices required is not permanent, an instruction shall be displayed near the gas appliances. This instruction shall bear the words ‘Operate ventilation when gas appliances are being used’ and a breakdown of the operations to be carried out.
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