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Old 20-08-2016, 13:26   #16
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Re: Dumbest and most dangerous PO mods.

Ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG UFB

Yes. I have see this solution before once... in Spain ...

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Old 20-08-2016, 15:23   #17
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I was borrowing a little Pandora some years ago for a few hours sailing. Never actually sailed one previously and I was impressed how open the cabin was.
Before we tacked, I noticed the shrouds were extremely loose. After the tack, I realised something was not quite right!
Somehow, it took he brain some minutes to realise there was no compression post. OK, the Pandora does not have one as such, it transfers the load through the main bulkhead.
Yes, you guessed correctly - the main bulkhead was missing. The entire deck was flexing.
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Old 20-08-2016, 15:42   #18
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One of my previous boats had a brute of an old tiller pilot. The boat had a wheel and he had the pilot rigged to the emergency tiller. And to top that, the power feed to it was 22 gauge solid telephone wire run unfused from the batteries, under a quarter berth cushion to the cockpit. There were two separate scorch trails where the wires had burned up. The surveyor missed that, and that was the last time I ever trusted a surveyor.
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Old 20-08-2016, 15:56   #19
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On the boat, cockpit drains are hose to stand pipes and are located where they are near impossible to get at with the engine in the boat. Looking at them, thought the hose part had been painted white. When I pulled the engine and could get at the cockpit drain set up, discovered that the PO had painted resin on the hose. The hose itself was totally rotten and largely disintegrated/non existant behind the resin outer facing. Rather than replace the hose that had had to be in poor condition when the PO installed the diesel, he'd just resined over the hose. Got to give him credit because it had survived a sail to Hawaii but probably would failed on a prolonged beat back to the mainland.
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Our marina requires an IP76 15 amp plug for our connection to the marina power stands. . I think I am one of about three boats that actually do have the proper plug and I don't even use it because we don't use the mains.
Now that is a rare animal, do you have a part # or picture?
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Now that is a rare animal, do you have a part # or picture?
I thought I was being polite by not commenting on the typo, but now you started it.....
Yes, inventing new levels of IP rating could be an interesting pastime.
Even if the marina was insisting on IP67, I would be amazed. In safety terms, I would suggest that you would not be required to look at more than IP56 at the pole, although there is a case for more on the boat with a deck inlet. I suspect most boats with an inlet in a locker would be only IP46. I would upgrade to 56!
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Old 20-08-2016, 16:32   #22
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Now that is a rare animal, do you have a part # or picture?

No picture handy but they are easy enough to buy. My local electrical supply place had them on the shelf. A bit pricey, around AU$40 each from memory. They have a threaded outer ring that screws onto the power stand on the dock. If you forget to disconnect the power lead before you leave the pen I can pretty well guarantee you will pull the power stand off the dock. The plug will NOT let go.


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Old 20-08-2016, 16:36   #23
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Hmmmm. Reading those last two posts it appears I may be wrong about the IP rating. I don't think I am. Ip67 seems logical enough to me. That's maximum dust protection combined with immersion protection up to one meter. Can't see anything strange about that.


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And now I have figured it out. Oops, I transposed dust and water. So no, not ip76, not possible. But ip67.


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Now that is a rare animal, do you have a part # or picture?

Next time you could just point out the typo. It would have been much easier.


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PO added a cabin fan and powered it by stuffing the wires into push-on connectors for lighting. He then hid the mess under a carpet liner. Started smoking off shore, which needless to say, scared the life out of us. The fans were re-wired the next day.
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Re: Dumbest and most dangerous PO mods.

I had 2 - 8 gauge wires that lead from the house bank into the bilge, they were not hooked up to anything. STUPID I had a 3' wire consisting of 3 pieces serving a bilge pump, an 12 gauge with 30 amp fuse hooked to a 14 gauge hooked to an 18 gauge, SCARY. I rewired the boat.
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Re: Dumbest and most dangerous PO mods.

My boat also used all red wires for battery cables whether they were positive or negative when it was made. Invariably the predictable happened at some stage in its past as evidenced by the overheated and melted remnants of old battery wires I discovered in the bowels of the boat recently.

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I'm amazed that the standard 3 pin Australian plug seems to be the norm in Australian marinas and that instalations don't have to be checked before you can plug in.

I think you have already won this competition.......
That's all the marinas supply at their end. Some want you to use specific leads, but I have never had anyone come check compliance. I replaced that mess in my op with a standard 10 amp weatherproof inlet. We spend no more than a few days in marinas a year and the inlet is mostly for the Honda 1kva genset for battery charging.

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Re: Dumbest and most dangerous PO mods.

Dumb but not dangerous: the PO removed a perfectly good Raymarine ST7000 autopilot control head and "upgraded" it to a ST 8000 unit--which is designed for a motor boat, not a sailboat. And he removed the depth, speed, and wind meters and the tankage meters so that all data would be read only on the chart plotter. But the winner was removing a good Force 10 propane stove to replace it with an electric stove in preparation for a circumnavigation! (He didn't go.)
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