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Old 29-11-2014, 09:35   #1
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Does "Size" really matter? Absolutely.

As a Builder and Construction Manager I have often been curious as to why people place so much emphasis on square footage of space. Size to most people is measured as how long something is multiplied by how wide it is. Consideration for height is quite often overlooked. For me Volume is the true definition of the "size" of a space. The length x the width x the height of a space. The Cubic Feet of space.

Which brings me to the point here. What 40' to 45' catamarans have the most interior volume? I have heard over the years that "that 50' cat seemed small" or "that 36' cat seemed like a 50 footer!" Perception of size in a catamaran is NOT always proportional to its length or LOA. So pound for pound or cubic feet of space/volume which 40' to 45' cats are the "largest" or "seem largest" compared to comparable length cats?
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Re: Does "Size" really matter? Absolutely.

The newest Lagoons seem to be trying to take the lead here. FP is fighting hard, though. I expect in a year or two for both of them to be building boxes with masts.

Maybe not with masts.

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Re: Does "Size" really matter? Absolutely.

Iin a cat there are a number of factors:

1. Hull beam width - fine for performance, but fat for space/load carrying.
2. Stern configuration. Long sugarscoops add LWL without increasing living space. (quite a few 42 footers are just like 38 footers for interior volume, but with long sterns)
3. Foredeck/saloon/cockpit length ratios - the more foredeck and cockpit, the less interior volume in the saloon.
4. Beam overall - older cats have a beam/length ration of around 1:2. Many condomarans these days are more like 1:1.75 and also have narrow side-decks, giving a lot more saloon volume.

5. Layout - Given two boats where all the previous factors are the same, an owners version with galley down will seem a lot more spacious that a charter version with 4 cabins and heads and a galley up.
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Re: Does "Size" really matter? Absolutely.

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The newest Lagoons seem to be trying to take the lead here. FP is fighting hard, though. I expect in a year or two for both of them to be building boxes with masts.

Maybe not with masts.

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Yes, the new trend is motor cats. Lots of new ones popping out and it make perfect sense for that type of cat. For most, all the mileage they will make on their live will not pay for the mast rig and sails. I mean if they turn the price of that in diesel for the engine.

I believe Nautitech is also doing good in what regards space. Their new 40 has lots of it and now that Bavaria bought them, they will be on the run for the boxiest cat around
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Thanks. I will check that out. Whats the lowdown on Bavaria Cats?


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They are not really Bavaria cats, the brand Nautitech was recentely bought by Bavaria and assuming the dealers are the same it can be an advantage in terms of assistance and maintenance.

They have a new boat, a 40ft and I had read good reviews (for the type of boat it is)


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