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Old 30-07-2015, 17:48   #1
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Do these prices seem right?

Just been quoted for some work on a boat I am in the process of purchasing... All prices in AU dollars.

Boat is a 51 foot cutter.

$4000 for antifouling including 2 saildrives
$2200 for top sides polish
$2300 for hull polish

Definitely more than I had guestimated. If these are the honest going prices, I'll be doing the work myself.

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Old 30-07-2015, 18:44   #2
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

Well based on what I had done to my yacht in Italy may 2014 ie the same as you for work to be done it cost me 7350 euros that price included lift out and in as well and looking at your quote would say that's a fair price but why can't you do it yourself
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:49   #3
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...but why can't you do it yourself
Buying boat on other side of country, no option to DIY anything until I bring her home.

Cost of antifouling is not so much a surprise, the polishing is. I think I'll just get her antifouled and DIY the polish myself when she's here.
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:57   #4
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

I know the cost of the anti fouling paint cost about 1500 euros they wanted to spray it on but I said no must be rollered on so that bumped up the price a little bit as it took 3 days for them , doing the deck took 2 days but they did a great job and hull polish took 4 days to do
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Old 30-07-2015, 20:58   #5
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

Beneteau 500,

No offense intended, but if they can spray to the required film thickness in one day, wouldn't you get a better bottom?

The best bottoms I've seen have been sprayed, but may be I'm missing something here?

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Old 31-07-2015, 04:01   #6
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

First define anti-fouling.
- If it's just a quick power wash when they haul out and then a fresh coat of ablative paint, that seems really high. I would think $750 for materials and maybe 2 guys for an 8 hr day. Assuming $100/hr, that would be around $2350. Even if they had to come back a second day to do the sail drives or a second coat, I wouldn't think much above $3000.
- If it's hard bottom paint and they have to remove the old, I could easily see it pushing $4000. You probably have at least another 8hr day for 2 guys doing the removal.

Seems a bit high for polishing but 51' is a lot of square feet.

These are tasks that don't take a high degree of skill and can save you a lot of money, so we usualy do them ourselves. Of course, it's dirty sweaty work, so for some it's money well spent.
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Old 31-07-2015, 04:39   #7
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These are tasks that don't take a high degree of skill and can save you a lot of money, so we usualy do them ourselves. Of course, it's dirty sweaty work, so for some it's money well spent.
I wish, but no. I am part the majority for who a dollar is a dollar. It'll be DIY 😊
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

Ann,
spray on anti foul looks great but after 25 yrs in the med 7 different yachts I have learnt a lot 1/ one of the things is they must thin it down by a big margin 2/ spray on only lasts about 9 to 10 months over the past 12 yrs I have been putting on two primer coats and 3 anti foul coats ( micron extra ) total costs every 2 yrs is in fact ( just checked my spend for past 5 yrs ) 1389 euros every 2 yrs on anti fouling
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I think the polishing could be high or low, depending entirely on how oxidized it is now.
Polishing can be an enormous amount of labor, starting with wet sanding first, and it's hard work too, harder than you would think.
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I think the polishing could be high or low, depending entirely on how oxidized it is now.
Polishing can be an enormous amount of labor, starting with wet sanding first, and it's hard work too, harder than you would think.
It's for an acid wash and polish. No sanding.
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I think when you say top sides, you mean decks. The top sides are the part between the water, and the deck.
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I think when you say top sides, you mean decks. The top sides are the part between the water, and the deck.
Yeah, that confused me as well when top sides and hull were two different quotes. :-)

Sadly, those prices sound "normal" to me.
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

The polish price might actually be reasonable - it depends also on how they do it, how bad the surface is to start with and what materials they use. We always do our own and have a decent mains powered polisher that changes the very hard work to just hard work. We run the generator to run the polisher and have a battery polisher for small jobs.
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

Those polishing prices seem awful high to me. (unless you are talking about restoration)
By the way....... the "topsides" are the Hull.
I know you want to treat your "new baby" right, but polishing disappears real fast anyway....... it's like driving down the road and throwing $100 bills out the window. Save that for later when you are more familiar etc.
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Re: Do these prices seem right?

When a large ship in a dry dock is bottom painted, it is invariably sprayed on to an agreed on mil thickness. It is always preferable to spray paint rather than using rollers.
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