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Old 09-01-2014, 02:50   #1
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De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

Thats the big question!

Dear Forum iam looking fwd to purchase sooner or later ;-) So right now my boat of interest is an 1983 Taiwan build 41 Sloop. The Same Yard building it is famous for building the most reliable valiant 40.

So in my particular case, the deck is original GFK and never have had any teak decks on it. But she is having balsa-cored deck Strukture and I would like to know how common it is, that there is moister ingress in the deck throug badly maintained handrails, portlihts or any other deckhardware which is basically screwed on the deck itself?

2nd, there is a "paint Peeling of the deck" inside the saloon or does it look to you as a more serious issue. Do any body have had simular exeriences with his own boat, or have seen something like that before and can give my any recommendations ?!

Thank you very much in advance for your help and assistance to all of you!
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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

Hi, I obviously can't comment on your boat but generally, yes core degradation is possible. It is fixable in a deck, messy but do able. Some great videos have been posted of just this job.

As for the delamination, I have no idea, the photo suggests a long term water exposure which may be the cause of paint falling off like that but just as likely to be delamination.

Get yourself a surveyor, for the cost you will sleep better at night.
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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

Proximity to the portlight is suspicious. Water runs down hill so I suspect either the gasket leaks or the frame is not bedded well.
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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

That looks like a painted plywood trim piece that has gotten wet and the paint bond failed. You should be able to easily tell if the plywood has delaminated by pushing on it (or just remove it and check). If not delaminated, just stop the leak, sand off the old paint, prime and repaint. The leak may not be from the portlight if there is deck hardware mounted above it.

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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

Looks to be some cracking in the plywood which would mean rot. Does the plywood feel soft and wet when you touch it? If it is when you dry it out I bet you a good chunk of it will just disintegrate.

Overall though if that is the only problem I'd say it's not such a big deal. It will be hard to find a boat that age without some kind of problem. This looks to be small and fairly isolated. You should be able to fairly easily cut it out, laminate in a new core and plywood and paint over.
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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

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Thats the big question!

Dear Forum iam looking fwd to purchase sooner or later ;-) So right now my boat of interest is an 1983 Taiwan build 41 Sloop. The Same Yard building it is famous for building the most reliable valiant 40.
I was not aware that any Valiants were built in Taiwan.
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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

Thanks to all of you for your answers and Kind help on that issue. I will contract a surveyor for making sure that i sleep better at night (tnx James)! I hope that ist just a Peeling of paint and nothing more..

Rick ! Your absolut right, i mixed up something. The shape of the underwater ship is simular to the Valiant 40. Build by Uniflite and not Litton/Taiwan. Same Designer and both fast.
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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

You may be worrying about nothing. That plywood piece looks to me like nothing but a liner or trim piece to cover up wiring runs, stanchion bases, etc.

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Old 15-01-2014, 01:31   #9
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Re: De lamination or just a paint peeling off the cover board

Hi Mark,

thanks for your opinion! I hope that its not an big issue as well, iam looking fwd to contract an surveyor, cause iam located in Austria and the boat is sitting 10000nm away from me.. ;-( If you wanna have a look at her, she´s stated on yachtworld.com - a perry 41 in Oxnard/ca.

cheers and good luck for your catch of the day
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