Originally Posted by ShipShape
ABYC standards are RECOMMENDATIONS, not requirements. ABYC standards are advisory only and their use is entirely voluntary.
Yep and if you blow up your boat and kill someone you can also bet that there will be lawyers there using the ABYC as the gold safety
standard for marine
applications in the US and wondering and asking why you chose to ignore it. ABYC standards are used in court cases..
Also when you have an insurance survey
they are going by surveyor
recommendations. I got a call last fall from a guy who was upset that his boat failed an insurance survey
and they wanted his water
heater "decommissioned" before re-issuing coverage. He was really mad at the surveyor
. He wanted me to write a letter stating that his water
heater was safe "because he'd been using it that way for 5 years" it was a Paloma on demand unit that does not meet current
safety standards. I told him I was in complete agreement with his surveyor and he then got pissed at me.
I asked him what he thought was fair for me to do, lie about the safety of his system, or be honest with him? I asked him what would happen if it blew up and killed someone and my arse get hauled into court for signing off that an unsafe system was "safe"? I politely explained that in this litigious society that myself, the surveyor and his insurance company are simply following "acceptable" safety standards.
I simply emailed him the excerpts from ABYC A-1 pertaining to his situation, which the surveyor had not done, and he quickly agreed that perhaps his insurance company was right to be in agreement with the surveyor who was in agreement with ABYC about the safety of his system.
Originally Posted by ShipShape
There is no ABYC standard recommending that LPG (propane) tanks be kept in lockers.
Yes there is, if the tank can not vent directly overboard
, as it can not on many sail and power boats. It's all covered in ABYC A-1:
From ABYC A-1:
"188.8.131.52 LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating equipment
, and safety devices shall be readily accessible, secured for sea conditions, and protected from the weather
and against mechanical damage, and shall be:
184.108.40.206.1 installed in a ventilated location on the exterior of the boat where escaping gases will flow directly overboard, or
220.127.116.11.2 if the escaping vapors will not flow directly overboard, the cylinder shall be installed in a dedicated locker meeting the requirements of
1.8 LPG LOCKERS
1.8.1 Lockers used to contain LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating equipment
and safety devices shall be designed to minimize the likelihood of use as a gear storage
locker and shall be,
18.104.22.168 vapor tight to the hull interior
22.214.171.124 located above the waterline, and
126.96.36.199 constructed of, or lined with, corrosion
resistant materials, and
188.8.131.52 shall open only from the top with
184.108.40.206 a gasketed cover that shall latch tightly, and
220.127.116.11 shall be capable of being quickly and conveniently opened without tools.
18.104.22.168 LPG lockers shall be installed so that the locker opens only directly to the outside atmosphere, and
22.214.171.124 If a LPG locker is installed inside a boat locker, the LPG locker shall be located as high and as close to the boat locker’s opening as possible in order to comply with A-126.96.36.199.
1.8.3 When means of access to the LPG equipment locker or housing is open, the cylinder valves shall be capable of being conveniently and quickly operated, and the system pressure gauge dials shall be fully visible.
1.8.4 Lockers shall be vented at the bottom by a dedicated vent, with a minimum diameter of any component in the vent system that shall be not less than 1/2 inch (12.5 mm) inside diameter.
1.8.5 Locker vents shall be led outboard
, without pockets, through the hull to a point lower than the locker bottom and above the waterline with the boat in the static floating position."