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Old 15-03-2014, 10:14   #61
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Enough of them for a lawyer to consider this case for a percentage instead of an hourly rate up front?
Depending on the merits and dollars involved, it's certainly worth a few calls.
I'd look for a lawyer with admiralty experience or one who has sued a surveyor before (preferably successfully )
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Old 17-03-2014, 01:38   #62
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At this point, i really do not want to pursue a lawsuit. If the survey/ buy shook out like this, imagine how a lawsuit from overseas would shake out.
I just want fix my boat and gear up for our circumnavigation.
Any comments on our fix plan. Seems pretty secure to me. Pulling her tomorrow and leaving her in the sling for a quick inspection of the keel-hull joint. Then, back in the water until April 2nd for the big hallout and permanent fix.

Thank All for your very welcome advice.
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Old 17-03-2014, 08:45   #63
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At this point, i really do not want to pursue a lawsuit. If the survey/ buy shook out like this, imagine how a lawsuit from overseas would shake out.
I just want fix my boat and gear up for our circumnavigation.
Any comments on our fix plan. Seems pretty secure to me. Pulling her tomorrow and leaving her in the sling for a quick inspection of the keel-hull joint. Then, back in the water until April 2nd for the big hallout and permanent fix.

Thank All for your very welcome advice.
DEFINITELY KEEP US UPDATED!!!

This one's a biggie learner... Hopefully (crossing everything) it is mainly cosmetic... but it going to help folks out in the future either way...

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Old 18-03-2014, 22:03   #64
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Old 23-03-2014, 09:14   #65
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Get a second opinion! Perhaps the math may be correct but a vessel is engineered to take a pounding. I have my doubts that this is anything more than superficial....the shape of a boat is a rather strong design in engineering. I would get a glass expert to repair it, check all the tabs and then move on to enjoy the boat. Checking the keel joint is a good idea as well. I suspect that we have diagnosed imminent death from a simple tooth ache!

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So, she's finally patched up and back in the water. Just eight thousand euros, a month of hard work and two weeks on the hard. In the end, we cut away the damaged pan, ground out the gelcoat,(my personal nightmare), and reglassed from the keel joint up toward the stringers and vertically up the bulkhead tabs. Over a hundrrd kilos of glass in all. My engineer calculated the thickness to come back to spec for the original build.
We found that the keel has been torqued on the grounding and was repaired with about 30 pounds of puddy, which was delamming. Probably some external glassing happened then as well., although the previous owners swore to me that they had done no repairs to the keel.
Took advantage on the hard to replace all through hulls and seacocks. Just gelcoated the bilge. Now, time to reinstall all of the tanks, and rebuild the furniture-one giant tetris game.
Then, we can go back to the electrical rewiring job that we were doing when we first discovered the cracks!

The good news is that I know my boat inside and out now; she is stronger and more sound; and we've met some great people with excellent advice along the way!
Hope to bump into some of you in exotic anchorages and buy you a cold one.

Thanks again for all of your help.

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Fantastic!! Good Job and fair winds !!!!!!
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Old 27-04-2014, 10:56   #68
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Re: Cracks in bilge

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So, she's finally patched up and back in the water. Just eight thousand euros, a month of hard work and two weeks on the hard. In the end, we cut away the damaged pan, ground out the gelcoat,(my personal nightmare), and reglassed from the keel joint up toward the stringers and vertically up the bulkhead tabs. Over a hundrrd kilos of glass in all. My engineer calculated the thickness to come back to spec for the original build.
We found that the keel has been torqued on the grounding and was repaired with about 30 pounds of puddy, which was delamming. Probably some external glassing happened then as well., although the previous owners swore to me that they had done no repairs to the keel.
Took advantage on the hard to replace all through hulls and seacocks. Just gelcoated the bilge. Now, time to reinstall all of the tanks, and rebuild the furniture-one giant tetris game.
Then, we can go back to the electrical rewiring job that we were doing when we first discovered the cracks!

The good news is that I know my boat inside and out now; she is stronger and more sound; and we've met some great people with excellent advice along the way!
Hope to bump into some of you in exotic anchorages and buy you a cold one.

Thanks again for all of your help.

Tobias
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Excellent! Looks like nice quality work. 8k sounds like a lot, but it could have been much, much worse. Not bad for this job IMHO. Good luck!
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Excellent! Looks like nice quality work. 8k sounds like a lot, but it could have been much, much worse. Not bad for this job IMHO. Good luck!
Now that he's got the repair done, I'd say he got off easy. It could have been a total refit on a big ol Nauticat!
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Glad to hear you have worked it out and is over. Congrats.
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Now that he's got the repair done, I'd say he got off easy. It could have been a total refit on a big ol Nauticat!

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