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Old 09-10-2013, 18:29   #1
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Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

Does anybody have a ball park figure on what it might cost to anti foul a 40ft long keel sailboat? We had a conversation with a guy that was restoring an old Formosa who said it would cost £10,000 pounds, about 16,000 dollars. If so how often would you have to spend this sort of money?
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Old 09-10-2013, 18:31   #2
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About $70/ft. in south Florida
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

I just paid $36.00/ft in St. Augustine including haul out, pressure wash, blocking, and launch. For a 40 footer that comes to $1440. Usually you can get at least 2 years out of a good bottom job. $16,000 must include a lot of additional work than just a basic bottom job....
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

It all depends on the condition of the hull to begin with. If power washing cleans it off and all it needs is a relatively simple sanding, it's a relatively inexpensive affair. If it is in much poorer shape, with built up paint layers or neglected marine growth, then the cost escalates considerably. As with all things to do with coatings, 90% of the labor is in preparation, not laying down the actual coating itself.

How often is a function of where you keep your boat, how much you sail it (movement through the water on a regular basis helps clean the surface) and how often you dive it and clean it yourself or have someone else do it. General rule of thumb is to put a new coat on every two years. Your mileage may vary.

And the cost is going to vary considerably based on where you have it done. It's mostly labor. $16,000 seems excessive for a 40', but the hull may be in very poor shape and need to be media blasted, patched, faired, barrier coated, and then painted. Hard to say what that cost covers without knowing condition.
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Old 09-10-2013, 19:42   #5
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

It will depend on various things, in particular how much work you are prepared to do yourself and, to a lesser extent, what type of paint you use, how regularly you re-paint and what local environmental rules and charges there are, how long you take to do it and how much the slipway charges for haul-out and hard stand.

If you do all the work yourself, then its gonna cost you the cost of the paint plus consumables (rollers, brushes, masking tape, sandpaper, etc), plus haul-out and hardstand.

If you pay someone to do it all for you, its gonna cost all that plus hourly rate.

The more regularly you do it, the easier the job is. We typically anti-foul once per year and scrub in the water once or twice per year, but we still race a bit, so the condition of the bottom matters a little more than if we were purely cruising. Having said that, I'd probably still expect to paint anti-foul about every 1-2 years max, even just cruising.

Typically we (wife and I) anti-foul once per year and do everything ourselves. Our costs, for a 40' boat are roughly as follows:
Haul out and 2-3 days hard stand $150
Anti-foul (4-5 liters) & thinners $250
Consumables $50


So our total cost is roughly $450 per year, plus our time / labor

A guy at our local yacht club paid $8,500 (AUD) to have the job done for him on his 40' yacht.
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

Roughly speaking - in Mexico where we do most our painting and repairs it runs about $35 plf
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

Just did mine in Northern Ca. They let me paint but they had to sand.
Haulout and in=$185
2 Gallons paint=$400
Sanding =$500
total.............=$1085
Therefore =$31 @ lin/ft.
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Just did mine in Northern Ca. They let me paint but they had to sand.
Haulout and in=$185
2 Gallons paint=$400
Sanding =$500
total.............=$1085
Therefore =$31 @ lin/ft.
Sounds like a good deal to me. Don't have to mess with the dust from sanding and less tools you have to mess with too.
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

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Does anybody have a ball park figure on what it might cost to anti foul a 40ft long keel sailboat? We had a conversation with a guy that was restoring an old Formosa who said it would cost £10,000 pounds, about 16,000 dollars.
Two coats of Pettit Trinidad = $2800US for a 40-footer, here on the Estuary.

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If so how often would you have to spend this sort of money?
A quality hard anti fouling paint (like Trinidad), properly maintained, will give you 3+ years of good performance.
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

Just had My Pearson 303 completely done! Sanding down to jell coat then apply 3 coats of NE2000e and 2 coats of bottom paint $2,800 USD in Lewis Delaware Anglers Marina. However, I really had to be on top of the boys sanding to get the job done right before the painting process began. I tried to find a soda-blaster company but found them tooo.. flaky. LOL So decided I would Hire 4 boys and buy 4 sanders and 1 pack of each sandpaper disk's 80, 60, 210 and 1 pack (2) of 80 belt sandpaper for the round-edges 3 days for just sanding. 1 day for fiber filling (patches) 1/2 day more for the final sanding. Caution! Do Not!! make the bottom SMOOTH.. PAINT DONT STICK RIGHT! end the job with 60 grit.

If you need fiberglass work done. I would go to the PRO's that know proper mixing and that do it day to day.. I found a surf-shop that does repairs and wow cheaper too.

Total cost 2,800 around 93-94.00 a foot
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

Thanks guys, as usual your very helpful and knowledgeable advice is much appreciated. The person who said 16,000 doallars, well 10,000 pounds was in the UK and he was restoring a very tired looking formosa, but even then I thought it a bit excessive. Anyway thanks again.
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

i have a tired looking formosa i cruise... i have yet to haul and paint--san carlos guaymas area of mexico has least pricey haul and launch pricing, and new prices lower than before. i was quoted 3280 usd fro haul and launch in la cruz de huanacaxtle, nayarit,mexico, and that is very high for mexico.

formosas do not usually have osmotic blisters. sometimes other problems arise.
i was quoted in mazatlan for shrimper yard haul 2000 pesos, paint 2000 pesos per gallon,l 4 will be needed, and so i look there fro my haul, perhaps...is most reasonable i have found to date. peso is now 13 to one usd.
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

This year we had a complete bottom job done on our Island Packet 40. Here is the breakdown:

Sandblast bottom = $1,200
Fill voids, sand bottom, 3 barrier coats (Pettit 4700), 2 antifoul coats (Trinidad SR) = $4,336 (labor portion was $3,035)

Antifoul should last 2 years.
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Re: Costs to anti foul 40ft boat

OP...you did not specify if you meant haul clean paint and launch or if it is underwater cleaning while boat is in place...that is usually anywhere from 1 usd per foot to 3 usd per foot.
i pay 500 pesos for a 40.9 ft formosa to be defouled while in water. sometimes i only pay 200 pesos, depends on who does it for me.

peso is 13 to one usd.
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i have a tired looking formosa i cruise... i have yet to haul and paint--san carlos guaymas area of mexico has least pricey haul and launch pricing, and new prices lower than before. i was quoted 3280 usd fro haul and launch in la cruz de huanacaxtle, nayarit,mexico, and that is very high for mexico.

formosas do not usually have osmotic blisters. sometimes other problems arise.
i was quoted in mazatlan for shrimper yard haul 2000 pesos, paint 2000 pesos per gallon,l 4 will be needed, and so i look there fro my haul, perhaps...is most reasonable i have found to date. peso is now 13 to one usd.
Those prices are reasonable.
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