converting tiller steering to wheel steering

hooked on water · 09-04-2008, 20:25

has anyone got any ideas on converting a tiller steering system to wheel
this is for a 32 hartley rorc, still to fit the rudder and internal fitout, so easy conversion should be possible
I have many ideas on cogs and geared drive, but am also wondering on cable or hydraulic
Any suggestions are welcome
cheers

sluissa · 09-04-2008, 20:43

cable seems to be the most common with hydraulic a second to that. there are differences to both. Some say the hydraulic doesn't let you feel the rudder, but holds a course better. I've never heard of a geared drive on a boat that size, it seems like it would add a lot of unneeded weight.

In my honest opinion though, why would you want to get rid of the tiller? You've got a simple system that I assume works(or could be made to work more easily than a wheel), why make it more complicated?

It's your boat, your decision, however.

hooked on water · 09-04-2008, 21:33

Am moving the cockpit to the rear, and the tiller would now be situated about 500mm from the rear of the cockpit, so the tiller would be coming out of the floor

Any other suggestions here would also be good

Could even fit a bracing to take the tiller connection and have the tiller within cockpit confines

roverhi · 09-04-2008, 21:54

Second the Why!!! If you are moving the cockpit aft, it's a no brainer for using a tiller. For one, the ease of connection of a Pendulum Servo self steering vane.

Currently have my first wheel and I swear at the damn thing every minute I'm out sailing with it. Had to scrap the P/S self steering because of the inertia in the wheel system. Wheel steering is not intuitive, gives poor feedback and feel, and, if the wheel is all the way aft, leaves you as the target of every bit of spray that comes aboard. Also find wheels way more tiring to steer than the wheel.

Aloha
Peter O.

hooked on water · 09-04-2008, 23:13

the problem I have is the design of the boat has the tiller 900mm from the transom which means that I would some how have to have it amid the cockpit or try shift it to the stern

do you see any problems with leaving the tiller placed more centrally in the cockpit, the tiller still fits before the cabin still

09-04-2008, 20:25	#1
hooked on water Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hobart Australia Boat: Hartley RORC 32 Posts: 118	converting tiller steering to wheel steering has anyone got any ideas on converting a tiller steering system to wheel this is for a 32 hartley rorc, still to fit the rudder and internal fitout, so easy conversion should be possible I have many ideas on cogs and geared drive, but am also wondering on cable or hydraulic Any suggestions are welcome cheers

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09-04-2008, 20:43	#2
sluissa Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL, US Boat: Westfield UK Kingfisher 20+ - Rabbit Posts: 402 Images: 4	cable seems to be the most common with hydraulic a second to that. there are differences to both. Some say the hydraulic doesn't let you feel the rudder, but holds a course better. I've never heard of a geared drive on a boat that size, it seems like it would add a lot of unneeded weight. In my honest opinion though, why would you want to get rid of the tiller? You've got a simple system that I assume works(or could be made to work more easily than a wheel), why make it more complicated? It's your boat, your decision, however.

09-04-2008, 21:33	#3
hooked on water Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hobart Australia Boat: Hartley RORC 32 Posts: 118	Am moving the cockpit to the rear, and the tiller would now be situated about 500mm from the rear of the cockpit, so the tiller would be coming out of the floor Any other suggestions here would also be good Could even fit a bracing to take the tiller connection and have the tiller within cockpit confines

09-04-2008, 21:54	#4
roverhi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kona, Hawaii Boat: Pearson 35 #108 Posts: 380	Second the Why!!! If you are moving the cockpit aft, it's a no brainer for using a tiller. For one, the ease of connection of a Pendulum Servo self steering vane. Currently have my first wheel and I swear at the damn thing every minute I'm out sailing with it. Had to scrap the P/S self steering because of the inertia in the wheel system. Wheel steering is not intuitive, gives poor feedback and feel, and, if the wheel is all the way aft, leaves you as the target of every bit of spray that comes aboard. Also find wheels way more tiring to steer than the wheel. Aloha Peter O.

09-04-2008, 23:13	#5
hooked on water Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hobart Australia Boat: Hartley RORC 32 Posts: 118	the problem I have is the design of the boat has the tiller 900mm from the transom which means that I would some how have to have it amid the cockpit or try shift it to the stern do you see any problems with leaving the tiller placed more centrally in the cockpit, the tiller still fits before the cabin still