Cinkel Steering Help

[highseas]

Trying to replace needle bearings on my Edson style Cinkel cable chain pedestal.Pin in brake sprocket refuses to budge,tried drift with hand sledge to no avail.Any ideas?

[highseas]

Figured it out ,now I know my steering system,amazing what a little maintenance and adjustment can do.

[Ziggy]

Great! By the way, I have a parts diagram (low res) if you ever need it in the future.

[Demerol]

Ziggy

I plan on doing some work on my Cinkel steering pedestal and I would love to get a copy of your parts list.

Thanks

[GordMay]

South Shore Yachts used to have Cinkel parts.
Contact Robert MacLachlan or Helene Taylor
South Shore Yachts, Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario L0S 1J0.
Tel: 905 468 4340 - Fax: 905 468 1538
Dealer of Bavaria Yachts, Contest Yachts and C&C Parts

As did Evert Bastet at EB Spars Inc, Hudson, Quebec
Tel: 514-327-7277

[Ziggy]

I posted the Cinkel parts diagram in the Gallery:


Also, some (many?) Edson parts are interchangeable with Cinkel.

[Saltyhog]

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I have a Cinkel pedestal on my Bayfield 32 and I'm pretty sure it hasn't been serviced in years so I have a few questions that hopefully someone can answer.

1) How different is it from an Edson? Are any parts interchangeable? There are some obvious differences but then there seem to be a lot of similarities too.

2) Are there any tricks to disassembling it? I need to take the pedestal off to do some cockpit floor core repair so while it's off I thought I'd paint it and clean and lube the bearings etc.

3) Are there top plates available? I'd like to get a stainless top plate. The current cinkel is painted aluminum. It seems different enough that the Edson top plate won't work. The Cinkel top plate has 2 mounting holes fore-aft, and the Edson has 4 mounting holes. Maybe the Edson could be modified.

4) Engine control morse cables: Are these universal? Can I just buy a new set or are they specific to the Cinkel pedestal.

Thanks for any help.

-Tom

[Demerol]

Tom

I think you are right that a lot of the parts look the same and most likely are but I would confirm by comparing dimensions.

Removing the pedestal is not that difficult, but than again I did not have any control cables to contend with. The worst part I found was getting the steering cables disconnected at the drive wheel below because of working space. The bearings can be lubed without disassembling the shaft by removing 2 screws on top of the bearings and forcing some grease into the hole while turning the wheel. Don’t forget to cross your steering cables when you re-assemble the system.

One option on your existing top plate is to find someone to powder coat it the same color as the pedestal, it does look good and stands up much better than paint.

The control cables are made by Teleflex Marine (link below) and are available from most marine suppliers.

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/products/controls-and-cables/control-cables-and-accessories/

If you want to give me you email address I have lots of info I can send you

Good luck
Marten

[Saltyhog]

Marten,

Thankyou!
PM sent. -Tom

[GordMay]

South Shore Yachts purchased Cinkel inventory when they went out of business.
Contact
South Shore Yachts
1544 Four Mile Creek Road, Virgil, ON LOS 1T0
Toll Free: 1 866-628-4080
Tel: 905-468-4340
Fax: 905-468-1538
Rob MacLachlan: service@southshoreyachts.com
➥ Dealer of Bavaria Yachts, Contest Yachts and C&C Parts

[berdel]

I want to know if the Edson Marinre Pedestal Steering Brake is compatible with the Cinkel Pedestal. Can someone answer this please?


Berdel

[Ziggy]

Berdel,
I think it might fit. I was able to use the Edson pedestal brake rebuilt kit for my Cinkel system.
Z.

[berdel]

Thanks for your help

[dandrews]

Originally Posted by Ziggy

Berdel,
I think it might fit. I was able to use the Edson pedestal brake rebuilt kit for my Cinkel system.
Z.

I also want to thank you. I have a Cinkel system that I have been bringing back to life and was wondering about the brake kit.

Don

[Ziggy]

Don and Berdel,

A word of caution: I said I think an Edson brake might fit a Cinkel steering system, but I'm not positive. I was able to use the Edson brake rebuild kit, which as I recall includes replacements for the wear parts like the rubber pads, but I have not tried installing the entire Edson brake in a Cinkel pedestal. If I were doing it I would call Edson and ask them for the detailed dimensions before ordering it.

Z.