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07-05-2019, 21:44
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Location: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Boat: Passage 24/30 Cutter
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
Eeeeeeeeeyewwwwww!!!!!! . . . Nasty, nasty, expensive looking mess you have there. You don't say what make of boat you own or what size???
Here's my suggestion, if it's in the 25' range & you are in the PNW, scrap this disaster & buy my Passage 24 which has cabin accommodations of a much larger boat.
If you are at all interested, PM me & I'll forward details & pictures. You can be sailing instead of throwing more hard earned money into this 'pit' & still have a 'rotting' boat under your feet.
I think you'll end up spending far more money trying to repair your boat than you ever imagined. If you think this is bad, what else is lurking under cover & yet to be discovered??? Been there done that, believe me.
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08-05-2019, 03:43
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Louisville, KY
Boat: Globe, cutter/ketch,38
Posts: 724
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
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Originally Posted by Tillsbury
There’s not likely to be good wood underneath, otherwise why did the previous owner do that?
As you have worked out, keep removing anything that looks at all flaky or “added” then see what you have. And use decent materials when you do the repair so the same thing doesn’t happen.
Assuming you’re in the galley it doesn’t matter if you don’t get an immaculate finish, as you could always tile the repair you have done.
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Flaky? DId you say flaky? Yes, ply will become flaky. Yuck! I have found repairing stuff the hardest part is committing to start! I never did take a pic of the totally finished section. Oh well, good luck
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23-06-2019, 09:24
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: 1980 Pacific International Marine 41.5
Posts: 710
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
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Originally Posted by Sailorbob8599
Eeeeeeeeeyewwwwww!!!!!! . . . Nasty, nasty, expensive looking mess you have there. You don't say what make of boat you own or what size???
Here's my suggestion, if it's in the 25' range & you are in the PNW, scrap this disaster & buy my Passage 24 which has cabin accommodations of a much larger boat.
If you are at all interested, PM me & I'll forward details & pictures. You can be sailing instead of throwing more hard earned money into this 'pit' & still have a 'rotting' boat under your feet.
I think you'll end up spending far more money trying to repair your boat than you ever imagined. If you think this is bad, what else is lurking under cover & yet to be discovered??? Been there done that, believe me.
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Repairing something like this goes far more into understanding how to properly rebuild and repair a vessel which can have significant benefits to ones skillsets.
To me it sounds like your just trying to sell a boat and only selling a boat.
To the OP: it doesnt have to cost an arm and a leg to do the repair. Use biaxial cloth, west systems epoxy and a 2x4 section of marine grade ply(or exterior grade ply soaked in epoxy at minimum).
It shouldn't cost more than $600 at the high end of things for the repair if you did it yourself.
I'd also go to external chainplates if you can. Laminate in large backing plates with biaxial and woven roving and call it a day(or week or so).
Definitely hardest part is starting the job, the next hardest is finishing to perfection.
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23-06-2019, 09:44
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running down a dream
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Florida
Boat: cape dory 30 MKII
Posts: 3,112
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
looks like the entire bulkhead needs to be replaced. from the picture it doesn't seem too hard but be sure to keep the old one for a template.
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23-06-2019, 10:37
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 6,190
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
Quote: "but be sure to keep the old one for a template. "
No, doing so isn't necessary. This damaged area is part of the main thwartships bulkhead and the shape of the one on the other side of the boat is identical where it meets the inside of the hull. If the bulkhead to be repaired is so far gone that you cannot use it for a template - and that seems likely to be the case - then there are well established ways to "take off" the shape for the new one, and to loft it in preparation for getting it out.
It is unlikely that a new bulkhead can be got through the hatchway in one piece. There are well established ways of dealing with that too.
If the topic is still current, and if the OP is still in need of advice, then sing out and we will do what we can do to help.
TrentePieds
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26-06-2019, 08:14
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: 1980 Pacific International Marine 41.5
Posts: 710
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
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Originally Posted by TrentePieds
Quote: "but be sure to keep the old one for a template. "
No, doing so isn't necessary. This damaged area is part of the main thwartships bulkhead and the shape of the one on the other side of the boat is identical where it meets the inside of the hull. If the bulkhead to be repaired is so far gone that you cannot use it for a template - and that seems likely to be the case - then there are well established ways to "take off" the shape for the new one, and to loft it in preparation for getting it out.
It is unlikely that a new bulkhead can be got through the hatchway in one piece. There are well established ways of dealing with that too.
If the topic is still current, and if the OP is still in need of advice, then sing out and we will do what we can do to help.
TrentePieds
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Also agree not necessary. Sure is nice but can easily make template without the old
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26-06-2019, 09:05
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#22
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running down a dream
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Florida
Boat: cape dory 30 MKII
Posts: 3,112
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentePieds
Quote: "but be sure to keep the old one for a template." No, doing so isn't necessary.
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did not say it was necessary but sure is a lot easier than tossing it out and starting from scratch. to each his own.
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27-06-2019, 21:28
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: 1980 Pacific International Marine 41.5
Posts: 710
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
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Originally Posted by gonesail
did not say it was necessary but sure is a lot easier than tossing it out and starting from scratch. to each his own.
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Yes very true! Trace the line, cut on inside of line and glass 'er up
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30-06-2019, 18:30
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 5
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond and offer advice. Very much appreciate it.
As an update... I ended up tackling the repair myself and used the sistering method as was offered as advice.
I'm attaching new pictures of the finished product. Not pretty, but seems structurally sound and the learning experience was priceless... albeit frustrating.
Thanks Again
Stefan
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01-07-2019, 22:35
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: 1980 Pacific International Marine 41.5
Posts: 710
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Re: Chainplate Bulkhead Rot Opinions
Looks like it will suffice. Did you use glass to tab it into the hull as well as the existing bulkhead?
I'm not entirely sure what that piece bolted through both sections is for? If you glassed it over, that should not be needed
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