Chain question - Page 3

SG · 10-04-2006, 21:30

We use 250' of chain with a 50' tail of three-strand rope-chain. We have a 33,000# or so cruising displacement. (65# CQR)

If you look at the load's -- unless you're hooked to rock (or God forbid, coral) -- I would think that the rope to chain splice should be a lot stronger than the anchor-to-bottom connection -- or your bow cleat, for that matter.

I would take the length of chain that you would normally use for deepest water thay you would generally expect to be anchoring (i.e., as though you aren't going likely to use your line at all); then I'd add a "tail" for that time when you really are going to let all the scope out. Than you won't have to mess with a snubbe in those conditions -- a snubber may get in the way on that dark and stormy.

I've only had the rope out a couple of times (in about 30'-35' of water in a bit of blow) -- I had the room in the anchorage and probably would have been fine. (Once in Great Salt Pond when they said the wind would be above 40 knots with higher gusts. It was a night in which there weren't many other boats in the anchorage, we didn't have much in the way of waves.-- as opposed to some of the "Islands" that others deal with in the Carribean.)

**irwinsailor** · 11-04-2006, 05:54

We added 100' of 3/4" nylon 3 strand to 400' of 3/8" HT chain just for added insurance. The 3/4' line is bigger than what Lewmar recommends in the windlass but because I do not expect to see it out much there should not be much of a problem.

SG · 11-04-2006, 21:02

Great minds travel in the same ruts ;^)

..........._/)...............

Joli · 13-04-2006, 03:45

Gunner, the only other thing you may want to consider is a larger anchor. We currently carry a 110 CQR but will be moving up to a 176 Bruce. Like you we carry 400 foot of 3/8 G40 plus lots more stuff below. 61 foot, 65k weight, 93 foot airdraft.

**irwinsailor** · 13-04-2006, 05:27

WOW! That is a big boat.

**GMac** · 14-04-2006, 20:14

WOW! Thats not big chain on boat or anchors that size.

10-04-2006, 21:30	#1
SG Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD (USA) Boat: J/160 #12 Posts: 65	All Chain We use 250' of chain with a 50' tail of three-strand rope-chain. We have a 33,000# or so cruising displacement. (65# CQR) If you look at the load's -- unless you're hooked to rock (or God forbid, coral) -- I would think that the rope to chain splice should be a lot stronger than the anchor-to-bottom connection -- or your bow cleat, for that matter. I would take the length of chain that you would normally use for deepest water thay you would generally expect to be anchoring (i.e., as though you aren't going likely to use your line at all); then I'd add a "tail" for that time when you really are going to let all the scope out. Than you won't have to mess with a snubbe in those conditions -- a snubber may get in the way on that dark and stormy. I've only had the rope out a couple of times (in about 30'-35' of water in a bit of blow) -- I had the room in the anchorage and probably would have been fine. (Once in Great Salt Pond when they said the wind would be above 40 knots with higher gusts. It was a night in which there weren't many other boats in the anchorage, we didn't have much in the way of waves.-- as opposed to some of the "Islands" that others deal with in the Carribean.) __________________ [img] http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/5/9/3/DSCN0247-8x12_315367.jpg [/img]

11-04-2006, 05:54	#2
irwinsailor Moderator Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,407	We added 100' of 3/4" nylon 3 strand to 400' of 3/8" HT chain just for added insurance. The 3/4' line is bigger than what Lewmar recommends in the windlass but because I do not expect to see it out much there should not be much of a problem. __________________ *Gunner*

11-04-2006, 21:02	#3
SG Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD (USA) Boat: J/160 #12 Posts: 65	Great minds travel in the same ruts ;^) ..........._/)............... __________________ [img] http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/5/9/3/DSCN0247-8x12_315367.jpg [/img]

13-04-2006, 05:27	#5
irwinsailor Moderator Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,407	WOW! That is a big boat. __________________ *Gunner*

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13-04-2006, 03:45	#4
Joli Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,589	Gunner, the only other thing you may want to consider is a larger anchor. We currently carry a 110 CQR but will be moving up to a 176 Bruce. Like you we carry 400 foot of 3/8 G40 plus lots more stuff below. 61 foot, 65k weight, 93 foot airdraft.

14-04-2006, 20:14	#6
GMac Moderator Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of the Bridge, thankfully Boat: R930 Posts: 1,478	WOW! Thats not big chain on boat or anchors that size.

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