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Old 12-03-2019, 09:48   #1
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Cabin Headliner Removal

Hello all, I have a new to me 2013 Salona 38 and need to remove the cabin headliner to change a leaky hatch and remove a ruined oceanair screen.

Does anyone know how the headliner is typically attached in a boat? I can't see any screws or other means of attaching from the outside. Are they glued on? Double sided tape??

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Re: Cabin Headliner Removal

Usually glue or staples. If you start from an edge, that's usually stapled, and the bulk of the material (if it is foam padded) has been glued up. Peeling that off can mean tearing up the foam, yes. But it should be either stapled around the hatch, or held up with a trim ring of some kind.
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Re: Cabin Headliner Removal

What sort of headliner is it? (A photo would help)


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Old 12-03-2019, 17:25   #4
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That's the one, it seems like it's fabric and padding attached to a board that is attached to the ceiling somehow?
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Maybe this will help?


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Old 12-03-2019, 18:33   #6
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Re: Cabin Headliner Removal

It might be a hook and loop system or one of those fancy screw systems. I'd reach out to the manufacturer and see what they say about how to remove it
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It might be a hook and loop system or one of those fancy screw systems. I'd reach out to the manufacturer and see what they say about how to remove it
Do you have any info on the hook and loop or fancy screw systems?

Unfortunately the manufacturer doesn't seem to be very responsive.
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Re: Cabin Headliner Removal

Take a look at fastmount fasteners. It seems like that is what new production boats are running to create a secured headliner without a visible fastener.

The hook and loop system would be a type of velcro.

I dont know exactly when the fastmount came about, but your ship being 2013, I'd be surprised if it was something else
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Take a look at fastmount fasteners. It seems like that is what new production boats are running to create a secured headliner without a visible fastener.

The hook and loop system would be a type of velcro.

I dont know exactly when the fastmount came about, but your ship being 2013, I'd be surprised if it was something else
Salona responded that it is velcro'd up. Does this seem feasible?
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Salona responded that it is velcro'd up. Does this seem feasible?
I wouldnt doubt what they say. Velcro can be quite strong.

I'd probably pick a panel that is out of the way/not seen often and try to work it loose before tackling any main cabin headliner.

You might want to try to get a very flexible putty knife(maybe even a thin flexible spatula) and see if you can get it up underneath a corner to break the velcro free.
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I wouldnt doubt what they say. Velcro can be quite strong.

I'd probably pick a panel that is out of the way/not seen often and try to work it loose before tackling any main cabin headliner.

You might want to try to get a very flexible putty knife(maybe even a thin flexible spatula) and see if you can get it up underneath a corner to break the velcro free.
Thank you for the advice. I'll do this and let you guys know how it goes. Probably heading back down next weekend.
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Re: Cabin Headliner Removal

Just a note, here, if it is velcro, if they used the sticky-back velcro, eventually, the glue deteriorates. However, you can use a good contact cement (like SC 4000) to re-bond it in place, or buy new sticky back velcro, and the glue will still be good for a while.

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Re: Cabin Headliner Removal

The Fastmount clips all look like you'd still see there is "something" every couple of feet apart.

Standard adhesive-backed Velcro, btw, has a very limited heat range. Something like 120-130F, which is less than a plastic panel left in direct sunlight will reach. There are some industrial fastening strips...I forget 3M's trademark for their version, but they make one that is used to hold toll passes on windshields, and that's very heat resistant. Both "sides" are the same material.

If all else fails, telephone the US distributor. They're probably used to these petty questions, coming from tightfisted owners who just don't understand, if the headliner is falling down, it is time to buy a new boat.(G)

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