Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 16-01-2011, 22:43   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: PNW
Boat: custom teak ketch 48' Eastwind
Posts: 607
Images: 9
Question Auto Pilot for Edson Worm-Drive Steering

I'm sailing a 70 year old classic with Edson jack screw steering and I wonder what kind of advice I can get on an autopilot installation.
I wonder if a cpt wheel steerer has enough power to handle it?
I'm sure I can make an old Wood Freeman work but the install would be pretty tough to keep it out of the weather.
Any ideas out there?
__________________

__________________
Geoduck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2011, 00:29   #2
Registered User
 
marc2012's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: abbeville la
Boat: seawind II Patience
Posts: 542
Basically what I have ray. 6000 attached with ram.Do they still make wf,still seeking/hunting?marc
__________________

__________________
marc2012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2011, 04:55   #3
Marine Service Provider
 
xsboats's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: St.Augustine ,Fl., USA
Posts: 204
Will your rudder shape and location facilitate the installation of a trim tab? I steer my 25 ton , 50 foot ketch using a small tillerpilot to control my trimtab through a morse shifter cable. I assembled this system to avoid the cost of purchasing a system designed for use with hydraulic steering but have also used it on an old gaff topsail ketch with rack and pinion steering, a trimaran with cable steering and many others.
__________________
xsboats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2011, 07:22   #4
Senior Cruiser
 
Blue Stocking's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,117
In my experience, the buttress-style thread on screwjack steering does not lend itself to ram and tiller like adaption.
Worked on a Herreshoff once that used screwjack, to which a split, chain sprocket had been clamped to the steering wheel shaft, and driven by a Centek unit, IIRC, .
I recall it was a pretty husky motor that drew some amps.
__________________
so many projects--so little time !!
Blue Stocking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2011, 16:26   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: PNW
Boat: custom teak ketch 48' Eastwind
Posts: 607
Images: 9
Yes -Wood Freeman is still alive.
Good idea - on the trim tab idea. I've given some thought to a wind vane but the boat pretty much steers its self and the cost of it is staggering but what else is new?
I need a pilot more while under power than under sail but a trim tab type wind vane would probably kill two birds with one stone because a trim tab rudder could easily be driven by a tiller pilot such as a Raymarine 1000 or it's equal.
My other problem is a canoe stern.
Who builds what I need?
More info out there?
__________________
Geoduck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-01-2011, 05:05   #6
Marine Service Provider
 
xsboats's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: St.Augustine ,Fl., USA
Posts: 204
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoduck View Post
Yes -Wood Freeman is still alive.
Good idea - on the trim tab idea. I've given some thought to a wind vane but the boat pretty much steers its self and the cost of it is staggering but what else is new?
I need a pilot more while under power than under sail but a trim tab type wind vane would probably kill two birds with one stone because a trim tab rudder could easily be driven by a tiller pilot such as a Raymarine 1000 or it's equal.
My other problem is a canoe stern.
Who builds what I need?
More info out there?
I am currently building one on "Angelica", a canoe stern 50 ft George Buehler Dragonfly cutter. I also did a similar arrangement where the tillerpilot controlled a Monitor during motoring on a canoe sterned Dreadnaught . Feel free to contact me for more info.
__________________
xsboats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-01-2011, 19:53   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: PNW
Boat: custom teak ketch 48' Eastwind
Posts: 607
Images: 9
xsboats-
After looking around, I need to find some plans for an auxillary rudder type wind vane that I can hang a Ray 1000 or Simrad tiller pilot ( which I have on my Nimble 20 trailer sailor)
Im capable of building one myself, I have the skills & equipment to do it and I can't afford 5 grand for a Hydrovane - how can this be so expensive? There isn't that much to it!
My old boat sails by itself mostly with trimming the sails, full keel & heavy she is - motoring is where the pilot is most needed.
Any good plans out there?
__________________
Geoduck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-01-2011, 21:30   #8
Senior Cruiser
 
Sailmonkey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Boat: '76 Allied Seawind II, 32'
Posts: 5,781
Quote:
Originally Posted by marc2012 View Post
Basically what I have ray. 6000 attached with ram.Do they still make wf,still seeking/hunting?marc
except we don't have the worm gear steering..........I think the princess does though.
__________________

__________________
Sailmonkey is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
edson, steering

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wind Vane for Worm Gear Wheel Steering? Architeuthis Auxiliary Equipment & Dinghy 0 05-03-2010 17:02
Leaky Edson Steering Binnacle bobfnbw Construction, Maintenance & Refit 5 03-12-2009 09:36
Worm Gear Steering vs. Pedestal Steering Pubsnub Monohull Sailboats 3 31-10-2009 09:26
Edson wheel steering seafox Construction, Maintenance & Refit 26 31-01-2008 13:23
Worm-gear steering - any experience with this type of steering? sneuman Monohull Sailboats 2 12-04-2007 12:52



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 16:17.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.