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Old 12-11-2010, 07:44   #16
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I was being sarcastic. It hasn't caught on because it doesn't work.
So were the guys who said the arch could not be built.
My thought to test this is take a couple of boards and let thm hang on over the side. each side with different levels of cayenne in the paint on them One having no cayeene and pull them up every couple of months to see what they look like.
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Old 12-11-2010, 07:52   #17
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So were the guys who said the arch could not be built.
My thought to test this is take a couple of boards and let thm hang on over the side. each side with different levels of cayenne in the paint on them One having no cayeene and pull them up every couple of months to see what they look like.
Again, adding chilis or peppers to anti fouling paint is not a new idea and has been tried many, many times by amatuers and professionals alike. But hey, it's your time and your dime, so if you wanna do another test of a concept long ago proven to be worthless, knock yourself out. We'll all be here, awaiting the results with baited breath.
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Even if it worked 20% as well as chemical-based antifouling - any paint manufacturer would be eager to announce:
'The first organic, all-natural antifouling'
They are constantly under environmental pressures.
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Old 12-11-2010, 08:06   #19
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I suspect that a mid season scrub with strong bleach might be more effective at killing things.

How about trying ordinary emultion paint which slowly disolves

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As someone once pointed out to me when I was considering adding cayenne pepper to the bottom paint, it can be a painfull experience. When we haul out for a bottom job we usually end up sanding the old bottom paint to smooth the surface. This generates a lot of dust and although we wear a respirator and goggles, imagine all of your exposed, sweaty skin, getting a liberal dose of cayenne pepper. Naah, I'll stick with the normal bottom paint, its toxic enough.

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I painted my boat with normal bottom paint except for a 1'x1' square which was lots of cayenne pepper in epoxy to make it stick. After a few months the only location with any hard growth was in that square and it had mussles etc..

Obviously it is not working very well, But my experiment is flawed because I should have had another section with _no_ paint or pepper so I could compare differences, please do this test and report back.

Also, if you go with pepper, please use as much as you possibly could, then add some because I might have gone too light.
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Isn't there a risk it will attract Mexican barnacles?
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Isn't there a risk it will attract Mexican barnacles?
And wouldn't it make your boat a hot spot...
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So were the guys who said the arch could not be built.
My thought to test this is take a couple of boards and let thm hang on over the side. each side with different levels of cayenne in the paint on them One having no cayeene and pull them up every couple of months to see what they look like.
You can then order your barnacles rare, medium or highly seasoned.
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Hi Reiner,

Just a cautionary note on interpreting the results of your experiment: because boats left in a fixed marina berth most of the time get different sun exposure on different parts of the bottom, they often will have different degrees of fouling on different areas, even with identical paints. So, while your experiment is interesting, I doubt if it will provide substantive information! But good onya for trying!

And just what sort of chilli did you use? Ground Habenero's from the Yucatan would likely be the best, but are hard to find here in Oz.

Hope that all is going well with the H-28, and that you have gotten in some good sailing as well as bottom painting. We may be through Manly in the next week or so, and if we do stop, we'll look ya up.

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According to my well respected boatyard, the pepper story is hogwash. We recently paid $250 / gallon for bottom paint and did not want to diminish the chemical balance by adding something the manufacture would have added had there were any truth to this maritime urban legend.
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Antibiotics?

A long time back I came across a colourful character with more street-smarts in his 30 odd years than most achieve in a couple of lifetimes, but that's another story... or book!

It was a few years after Australia had banned tin containing antifouls and everything on the market back then seemed to nuture and nourish bottom growth!

He lived on his boat full time, and claimed he had a sailing vet friend who had given him "horse antibiotics" to mix in with the antifoul, and he was a couple of years down the track with zero growth.

Anyone heard of this or similar?
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I remember back in the '90's, the story was Tetracycline.
We added some once, and didn't see any difference.
We were on the hook and cruising Mexico at the time.
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As long as the Mexican Barnacles bring the Tequila and the cervesa, I could handle a little extra scrubbing..

Nothing like some of the concoctions we used in the 60's.

Take 5 gallon bucket of navy red lead bottom paint, add 10 lbs. powdered red lead, stir well, then add about 5 lbs of arsenic. Didn't have to much growing on the bottom of the boat. Come to think of it, probably didn't have anything growing anywhere near it

I can imagine what the EPA would do if you used it these days. Probably get out of jail around year 2525..
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We talked about the Cayenne pepper story and decided we try Hot Chilli Powder.
We did one side with the Chilli and the other side without.
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If you start sailing around in circles you might be onto something
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