Antifouling paint

BC Mike · 27-12-2005, 12:11

My new boat has three coats of Pettit Ultima SR on the bottom.
I would have to remove this to be able to apply Interlux VC 17.
The VC 17 drys smooth, and is fast through the water.
Has anyone used a Pettit product that is comparable to the VC 17.
Removing the Pettit would be a lot of work and a lot of dust created.
I have talked with Interlux and Pettit is on holiday, so is the sail loft. I am spinning my wheels and the world is on holiday. First race is in March.
Michael, with sander in hand.

Talbot · 28-12-2005, 01:29

Dont use a sander to remove anti-fouling. It is very toxic and even scraping it you should be well protected with mask gloves and full body suit.

Quickest way I have used is a product available in UK called Removall. It is painted on, and then you use a high pressure washer to blow of the residue and neutralise the product. did a 23m mobo with this stuff in a couple of days

delmarrey · 28-12-2005, 12:01

Try a product called Peel away.

**Pblais** · 28-12-2005, 12:27

Yes, Peel away is the easiest way and is safe on the environment and your sanity.

Jentine · 28-12-2005, 15:44

I have found them to be very friendly and helpful.

You may not have to remove the old paint. Were I to do that I would remove it under water with a scrubber and a scuba tank.

BC Mike · 28-12-2005, 16:16

Well thank yuse for the replys but to review my question.
I want to know if anyone has used a Pettit product that is comparable to VC17. I do NOT want to remove the paint that is on there now. I want to make it smooth. I have the technology to remove it but I do NOT want to remove it. Pettit is CLOSED for the holidays. Interlux is open and they told me the Pettit would have to be removed if I was applying VC17. So I goes tinks, maybe there is a Pettit product that is comparable, and that way I will NOT have to remove the paint at all.
The Vivid Pettit antifouling looks like it will do the job. It is hard and recomended for racing according to the Pettit product list.
Michael

capt lar · 28-12-2005, 16:36

I do not know, but most larger boat yards doing paint work have a reference book that lists what is compatable and what products from different manufacturers may be cross applied or substituted.

Larry

SailorPaul · 30-12-2005, 21:00

I like the Vivvid White bottom paint (by Pettit) that we put on last May.

It's been a fast bottom. Can't tell you if it's compatible with the existing VC-17

BC Mike · 30-12-2005, 21:09

SailorPaul. Great that is what I was looking for. I have sanded the whole thing. The keel needs a bit of Pettit rustloc on some bare patches, then I think I will fill the divets and paint with the Vivid. All this subject to a phone call to Pettit when they return to work next week. I need warmer teperatures before I can paint and or fill. I will only be using this boat for the racing series. The kids ( rentals ) may use it on other days.
Nothing is really compatable with VC17. I wanted to know if the Pettit products were comparable, as in performance wise. Your post came the closest to telling me that.
Michael

avazquez · 01-11-2007, 03:27

I have used Vivid in the caribbean and it sucks. It lasted six months and it suddenly fouled like crazy. STAY AWAY FROM IT IN THE CARIBBEAN.

SeaKing · 01-11-2007, 05:44

I use SuperShipBottom it will work over any paint. It has a high copper content and is for the waters of south Florida and the caribbean

Super Shipbottom* Hard Ablative Antifouling Paint

Lancerbye · 01-11-2007, 12:19

Has anyone tried cayenne pepper in a copper based paint? Saw an article about this in a boat mag. Sounded real effective. I would love to try it by the bottom paint on my boat is blue.

GordMay · 01-11-2007, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerbye

Has anyone tried cayenne pepper in a copper based paint? Saw an article about this in a boat mag. Sounded real effective. I would love to try it by the bottom paint on my boat is blue.

Do you want to give the fouling organisms heartburn & bad breath?

Lancerbye · 01-11-2007, 19:11

I guess that was the idea. They didn't like it much. Besides it would spice up the oceans and you would get spiced crab and lobster.

senormechanico · 01-11-2007, 19:32

I realize this thread is a couple of years old, but I'm considering going the opposite way from the original poster. I've got VC17 on my boat and am considering going to something else. The VC17 has been burnished and I like the speed difference over the old paint which wasn't burnished (+15%) but I sure could use something which combats slime. If I leave the boat parked for a couple of weeks, I get grass about 8 inches long at the waterline!

Steve B.

27-12-2005, 12:11	#1
BC Mike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kelowna BC Boat: Tanzer 8.5m Tanzer 22 Posts: 1,029 Images: 5	Antifouling paint My new boat has three coats of Pettit Ultima SR on the bottom. I would have to remove this to be able to apply Interlux VC 17. The VC 17 drys smooth, and is fast through the water. Has anyone used a Pettit product that is comparable to the VC 17. Removing the Pettit would be a lot of work and a lot of dust created. I have talked with Interlux and Pettit is on holiday, so is the sail loft. I am spinning my wheels and the world is on holiday. First race is in March. Michael, with sander in hand.

28-12-2005, 01:29	#2
Talbot Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stavanger, Norway Boat: Last boat was a Catalac 9m Hi-Jude Posts: 2,988 Images: 23	Dont use a sander to remove anti-fouling. It is very toxic and even scraping it you should be well protected with mask gloves and full body suit. Quickest way I have used is a product available in UK called Removall. It is painted on, and then you use a high pressure washer to blow of the residue and neutralise the product. did a 23m mobo with this stuff in a couple of days __________________ "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss." Robert A Heinlein

28-12-2005, 12:27	#4
Pblais Moderator Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hayes, VA Boat: Gozzard 36 - Bright Eyes Posts: 6,930 Images: 12	Yes, Peel away is the easiest way and is safe on the environment and your sanity. __________________ Paul Blais s/v Bright Eyes Gozzard 36 37 15.7 N 76 28.9 W

28-12-2005, 15:44	#5
Jentine Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cruising on the hook Boat: Beneteau 393, "Blackthorn" Posts: 591 Images: 5	Call Petit. I have found them to be very friendly and helpful. You may not have to remove the old paint. Were I to do that I would remove it under water with a scrubber and a scuba tank. __________________ Jim We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." --Aristotle

28-12-2005, 16:16	#6
BC Mike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kelowna BC Boat: Tanzer 8.5m Tanzer 22 Posts: 1,029 Images: 5	Paint Well thank yuse for the replys but to review my question. I want to know if anyone has used a Pettit product that is comparable to VC17. I do NOT want to remove the paint that is on there now. I want to make it smooth. I have the technology to remove it but I do NOT want to remove it. Pettit is CLOSED for the holidays. Interlux is open and they told me the Pettit would have to be removed if I was applying VC17. So I goes tinks, maybe there is a Pettit product that is comparable, and that way I will NOT have to remove the paint at all. The Vivid Pettit antifouling looks like it will do the job. It is hard and recomended for racing according to the Pettit product list. Michael

28-12-2005, 12:01	#3
delmarrey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Puget Sound, WA Boat: Choate 40 Posts: 4,335 Images: 117	Try a product called Peel away.

28-12-2005, 16:36	#7
capt lar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Cod Boat: currently "on the beach" Posts: 729 Images: 12	I do not know, but most larger boat yards doing paint work have a reference book that lists what is compatable and what products from different manufacturers may be cross applied or substituted. Larry __________________ Larry We have met the enemy and he is us. - Walt Kelly

30-12-2005, 21:00	#8
SailorPaul Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Boat: Newport 41 mk II Posts: 20	I like the Vivvid White bottom paint (by Pettit) that we put on last May. It's been a fast bottom. Can't tell you if it's compatible with the existing VC-17

30-12-2005, 21:09	#9
BC Mike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kelowna BC Boat: Tanzer 8.5m Tanzer 22 Posts: 1,029 Images: 5	Vivid SailorPaul. Great that is what I was looking for. I have sanded the whole thing. The keel needs a bit of Pettit rustloc on some bare patches, then I think I will fill the divets and paint with the Vivid. All this subject to a phone call to Pettit when they return to work next week. I need warmer teperatures before I can paint and or fill. I will only be using this boat for the racing series. The kids ( rentals ) may use it on other days. Nothing is really compatable with VC17. I wanted to know if the Pettit products were comparable, as in performance wise. Your post came the closest to telling me that. Michael Last edited by BC Mike; 30-12-2005 at 21:12.

01-11-2007, 03:27	#10
avazquez Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Humacao, Puerto Rico Boat: Beneteau 456 Posts: 240 Images: 8	VIVID SUCKS DON'T USE IT in the caribbean!!!! I have used Vivid in the caribbean and it sucks. It lasted six months and it suddenly fouled like crazy. STAY AWAY FROM IT IN THE CARIBBEAN.

01-11-2007, 05:44	#11
SeaKing Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Shady Side, MD Boat: Voyage 470 "SeaPaws II" Posts: 256	I use SuperShipBottom it will work over any paint. It has a high copper content and is for the waters of south Florida and the caribbean Super Shipbottom* Hard Ablative Antifouling Paint

01-11-2007, 12:19	#12
Lancerbye Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Victoria at present. Boat: Lancer 44 Motorsailer Posts: 712 Images: 28	Has anyone tried cayenne pepper in a copper based paint? Saw an article about this in a boat mag. Sounded real effective. I would love to try it by the bottom paint on my boat is blue. __________________ The basis of accomplishment is in never quitting Mengzi Meng-tse

01-11-2007, 19:11	#14
Lancerbye Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Victoria at present. Boat: Lancer 44 Motorsailer Posts: 712 Images: 28	I guess that was the idea. They didn't like it much. Besides it would spice up the oceans and you would get spiced crab and lobster. __________________ The basis of accomplishment is in never quitting Mengzi Meng-tse

01-11-2007, 19:32	#15
senormechanico Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Whidbey Island WA Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran Posts: 1,372	I realize this thread is a couple of years old, but I'm considering going the opposite way from the original poster. I've got VC17 on my boat and am considering going to something else. The VC17 has been burnished and I like the speed difference over the old paint which wasn't burnished (+15%) but I sure could use something which combats slime. If I leave the boat parked for a couple of weeks, I get grass about 8 inches long at the waterline! Steve B.

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